|
 |
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 117 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2009 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2009 | Jan 1970 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 20628 | Oldham |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2016 | Aug 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| everyone has their moments of feeling down GF. Don't give up, the game needs people like you. Have a couple of weeks off and relax charge up your batteries and restart the good fight.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 20966 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2015 | Feb 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 447 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2015 | Oct 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Oh, don't get me wrong. It isn't woe is me or if only they'd listen to me.....it's just if they would actually do something. If someone can point to any activity that the club have carried out to attract new fans this year that has worked, I will be delighted.
2,245 which includes at least 250 kids and parents for the pre-match tournament and 50 odd welsh is a disgrace.
I really do fear for the club, because £20,000 in gate receipts just won't keep us afloat.
As I said, you can put as much positive spin on as you like, but the crowd on Saturday was shocking.'"
Remember we were playing the side holding everyone else up for G*D's sake. They are not a top draw team (although I hope one day they will be). For crying out load give PB a chance, Rome was not built in a day. Look at many of the crowds lately and they look poor. Cas V Wolves was about 5500 - I bet that in the past would have drawn 7000 to 8000 (and Cas are going well at the moment).
The new bloke needs a chance to set out his stall, make a plan, get DH's backing and motivate the back office (who must be worn to the bone having to prop up everything for over a year). Then crack on. He has been in the job, what three months tops? Most people joining a new company need three to six months to understand the tools, processes, PEOPLE etc.
If PB had gone in all guns blazing he would be a fool, he needs to get the back office's trust first and foremost.
As for the CATS game, yes that is shocking and SKY have not done us any favours at all. But you can't blame the club, DH or PB for that. Of course they could have said to SKY - shove it. But it's not a good idea to bite off the hand that feeds you.
I pity the poor Warriors!  All the best in NZ, you will be missed GF.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 4906 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2003 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2022 | Mar 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote retirethename="retirethename"Remember we were playing the side holding everyone else up for G*D's sake. They are not a top draw team (although I hope one day they will be). For crying out load give PB a chance, Rome was not built in a day. Look at many of the crowds lately and they look poor. Cas V Wolves was about 5500 - I bet that in the past would have drawn 7000 to 8000 (and Cas are going well at the moment).
The new bloke needs a chance to set out his stall, make a plan, get DH's backing and motivate the back office (who must be worn to the bone having to prop up everything for over a year). Then crack on. He has been in the job, what three months tops? Most people joining a new company need three to six months to understand the tools, processes, PEOPLE etc.
If PB had gone in all guns blazing he would be a fool, he needs to get the back office's trust first and foremost.
=redAs for the CATS game, yes that is shocking and SKY have not done us any favours at all. But you can't blame the club, DH or PB for that. Of course they could have said to SKY - shove it. But it's not a good idea to bite off the hand that feeds you.
I pity the poor Warriors!
All the best in NZ, you will be missed GF.'"
The club could do nothing about the Catalans game - SKY say jump you have to say how high. Where the club went wrong IMHO is saying initially that they had objected to the move - it was a PR disaster.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 20966 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2015 | Feb 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Paddock Punter="Paddock Punter"The club could do nothing about the Catalans game - SKY say jump you have to say how high. Where the club went wrong IMHO is saying initially that they had objected to the move - it was a PR disaster.'"
Correct.
And, if this is an example of how the new man does business, it goes a long way to explaining his colourful list of past jobs over the last 10 years.
NFL Europe, SFA, Southampton, Surrey CC, Hull KR. all in the last 11 years...............Not one of these organisations seem to have tried to keep him when he left. I am sure he is a very capable person, but as CV's go, it does raise a slight amount of concern IMO that is.
6 jobs in 11 years........read into that what you wish.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 117 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2009 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2009 | Jan 1970 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Yeah.....let's keep stumbling along and hope David Hughes doesn't find a new toy to play with.
'"
applauding a common sense posting, it's good to hear that perspective hasn't gone completely out of the window
Quote gutterfax="gutterfax" the only way to rectify it is to put cash on the table for proper marketing.'"
DH owns the keys to that budget. If he chooses not to release it, then the club goes down with him, but at what point does that become the GM's fault? As HKB points out, he needs to earn DH's trust. I think you're expressing your angst at the wrong person. Someone who's been in charge for 2 months or 10+ years?
Btw - I suspect the break even for any benefactors at the club is an attendance of circa 10k depending on ticket price. It's prob not going to happen in our lifetime, but we can hope. There have been plenty of incidences of sub 2k audiences in the past 15 years and the club has survived....
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 20966 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2015 | Feb 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote poorlytoe="poorlytoe"applauding a common sense posting, it's good to hear that perspective hasn't gone completely out of the window
DH owns the keys to that budget. If he chooses not to release it, then the club goes down with him, but at what point does that become the GM's fault? As HKB points out, he needs to earn DH's trust. I think you're expressing your angst at the wrong person. Someone who's been in charge for 2 months or 10+ years?

Btw - I suspect the break even for any benefactors at the club is an attendance of circa 10k depending on ticket price. It's prob not going to happen in our lifetime, but we can hope. There have been plenty of incidences of sub 2k audiences in the past 15 years and the club has survived....'"
On the club site it says
"Paul is responsible for the day to day running of Harlequins Rugby League and his top priority is to increase attendances at matches."
On Point 1. The day to day running of the club. Top job so far with the Catalans fiasco  give him a pay rise.
On Point 2. We are nearly 1,000 fans down since we left TW8 for TW2. Not his fault at all, but still, since he joined we have had the bring a mate for free campaign and NO FOLLOW UP CONTACT to those people. We have had George Sampson (not cheap I should imagine) with no chance of any of the screaming teens coming back.
So, 60 days into the job and all that has happened is we seem to have lost a Commercial Sales Manager, the head of the volunteers group and pretty much nothing else
Sorry, I know it can't be easy getting funds out of DH for marketing, but I take it that PB would have had to offer some kind of Business plan to DH when he was interviewed for the role. If I was offered a job that required increasing attendance figures, but was told there was no budget to achieve this, I doubt I would take the job on.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 7184 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2009 | Jan 1970 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| i really feel for the management at quins, they are producing a good standard of rugby which is comparable to anything (saints apart) in the heartlands. just a pity that more people don't turn up and watch them every week..............i know i would if i didn't live 200 miles away.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 117 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2009 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2009 | Jan 1970 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"On the club site it says
"Paul is responsible for the day to day running of Harlequins Rugby League and his top priority is to increase attendances at matches."
On Point 1. The day to day running of the club. Top job so far with the Catalans fiasco
give him a pay rise.
On Point 2. We are nearly 1,000 fans down since we left TW8 for TW2. Not his fault at all, but still, since he joined we have had the bring a mate for free campaign and NO FOLLOW UP CONTACT to those people. We have had George Sampson (not cheap I should imagine) with no chance of any of the screaming teens coming back.
So, 60 days into the job and all that has happened is we seem to have lost a Commercial Sales Manager, the head of the volunteers group and pretty much nothing else
Sorry, I know it can't be easy getting funds out of DH for marketing, but I take it that PB would have had to offer some kind of Business plan to DH when he was interviewed for the role. If I was offered a job that required increasing attendance figures, but was told there was no budget to achieve this, I doubt I would take the job on.'"
Yeah, you're right mate, sack him and be done with it. And anyone else who can't turn water into wine within 60 days. You've already made your mind up.
You keep on whipping your cronies into an extremist frenzy. Though I'm not quite sure what good that does? 
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 2843 | London Broncos |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Mar 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Fan50="Fan50"Thought BM was on contract for the next couple of years??'"
He is, extended his contract last year before the Leeds game, can't remember for how long though.
|
|
|
 |
|