Indeed, given that any coach of any "lower" team will employ whatever tactics he can to slow down the better, faster team, we should take it as a compliment

I've not really noticed it to be honest. We've certainly become more disciplined in this regard than we were under TR but I've not really noticed either Wigan, Warrington or Hull being overly persistent.

I certainly noticed it against Wigan and even Wire (but i suppose they were just desperate), and it was also present against Hull, but the conditions could offer some excuse in this case. In actual fact it's not just holding down it's 'turtling' where the player is turned on their back once tackled.

I've been trying to see if we're doing it too and would have to say we're not. In fact we're jumping off probably a little too soon - presumably scared of the refs and how we got done last season. Reminds me of England in the World Cup, playing to a different set of rules.

In any case it won't come to anyone's attention but ours until either Saints, Wigan, Leeds or Wire complain about it so in the meantime let's just try gently reminding the referee of the rules whenever it occurs in our games.

I've not noticed too much but I have been increasingly frustrated at the officials refusal to penalise markers for not being square

You won't have long to wait, Thaler on Saturday.