Let's be honest here. I was as keen as all of you to try to up the attendances at the games but if these are genuine responses then i really couldn't give a sh*t anymore.

Perhaps this is the problem. It would appear that the more active amongst you honestly believe that you are above listening to a staion that is in the main listened to by people who use their hands for a living whether driving, building or scratching theirs $rses.

Whereas this Club used to represent everything that I love about sport, comments like those only serve to confirm that it is becoming as pompous as its host.

Does it matter that you don't like the content of the station ? The aim of getting them to talk about Rugby League in London isn't to satisfy your intellectual cravings but to draw in genuine sports fans. You don't need to listen to the stuff, more hope that of the 2,5 million that do, if only 1 in every 1000 came to a game it would double the gate (roughly).

In short, stop worrying about local leaflet drops, bus advertising, market stratagies, free season tickets, after match entertainment, dancing girls, attracting the aussies, attracting the union lot and whether you may or may not be impressed by the inane warblings of Ian Wright and Co. and start thinking about how the rugby league will sell itself to sports fans if only they would come down and watch it live.

And by the way, if you seriously think Talk Sport do talk $hite then you probably:

a) are a big fan of Rugby Union
b) don't speak Englsh
c) work for Radio 5
d) have never listened to it
e) take yourself very, very seriously
f) are over 85 years old
g) think Coldplay are a great band
h) are aggrieved that football is so popular
i) think Mr Bean is a documentary

I'm bored. I havent renewed the 6 season tickets that we have bought for the last 4 years and will spend my Summer watching local rugby league where I dont have to stand in the same location as the kind of people who thought that Rugby Union involved a hamper in the car park swiftly followed by watching 30 men clap each other as half of them walk off the pitch through a human tunnel.

Goodnight.

Last quote was mine and I am puzzled as to why you think promoting the game to the 250k odd local residents is a "wrong" thing to do?
Why try to sell RL in TW2 to London when we have an average of (real average, excluding the odd bumper crowd) of about 3,600 at home games. Try to get 3,000 more locals in, THEN promote the game when the stadium doesn't look like a ghost town.
I know for a fact that 1 representitive of the RFL has single handedly raised the profile of the Club with their activities in the run up to manly. With little or no budget, this person has slogged their guts out and as a result I believe we will see a few returnees back at the stoop for the Wigan game and more thereafter.
We do not have the funds to advertise London wide, so why try it? Stick to people who can get to the Stoop inside 30 minutes to start with....then look at the bigger picture.

Spot on Gutters

I agree Gutters, however if we did have some money we could attempt to get to the rest of London + tourists etc, no other RL team in the world has a market of 7 million on it's doorstep!

PS I see Time Out has dropped its sport section, there goes another window to advertise the game, it does not get any easier.

Alas, we have no money to spend on advertising and there's the crux of the problem. In the current climate, clever companies will increase their promotional activity and cut back in other areas to balance the spend....Quins RL have no areas where we can cut back so we have no chance of getting any additional exposure unless it is done by the volunteers or Ady, the one man marketing machine for the RFL!!
I still say it can be done on a shoestring, but it needs a lot of planning and the buy-in from our Union brothers to offer assistance.
I know it's been banged on about, but we have corporate boxes sitting empty (1 sold last year). Not sure of ther price of sandwiches and coffee, but I would think £5 a head would cover a buffet type offering, so why not invite Richmond Chamber of Commerce to a game.
They are currently promoting rlTHISrl which is something I mentioned over 2 years ago and obviously our Union cousins (who are members) have SOLD the venue to them.
If we can wrangle a stand at this expo, we should promote our corp hospitality to these Local business leaders, as well as giving every visitor to the expo a free book of 5 tickets to a game.

Anyway, back on thread. I have begun to listen to the online crystal set thingy recommended by some on here and I must say, it is rather good entertainment.

well someone has been taking note............

Talk Sport about 9.45 am today and, amidst a raft of Rugby League based emails and texts that were being read out, one pops up from a 'Quins fan' stating Rugby League is the greatest game of all.

Expect to see some horrible, violent, partisan, uneducated and generally scruffy football fans at the Stoop in the near future !