Utterly embarrassing performance in the 2nd half.

Start with the positives. Seb before his injury looked good to say hes just come back from a knock and played no pre season games. Adam O Brien looked excellent in first half.

I feel we set the tone immediately by giving a penalty away on our very first defensive set which immediately suggests to me we havnt learned our lessons and followed that with about 2/3 others in quick succession. Our discipline has just not improved at all.

Hull were very poor first half but we did very well to lead the game and played some good rugby. We should have scored more points and got further in front.

12 - 4 up and then completely threw the game away. Mamo giving a silly penalty away before half time and then lucky not to cost us another just before half time. We manged to go in leading still, come out for 2nd half and Daniel Smith knocks on straight away by Hull sticks and we concede in the next set 2 mins later ....Smith again knocks on and shortly after its then game over.

Jake Mamo was absolute diabolical tonight and cost us a few points through mistakes himself but he has not played in ages so can excuse him off an off game.

If anyone thinks were are going to make top 4 you are sadly in for a big disappointment and a long season.

I dont think we have the squad for top 4 anyway. But I feel too many injuries again early doors will put that to bed over the next few weeks and will more than likely mean we will be fighting similar to last year to make the 8.

Ikahihifo probably out for weeks now too which means absolutely no go forward from our props except Taai. Lawrence too added onto the injury list - since hes bulked up he seems to have had nothing but injury problems.

Top 7/8 is best we can hope for and a decent cup run. Achieve that and weve had a good year

You have some good players, not sure your halfbacks are good enough,Brought is too easy to wind up and Rankin is poor at 6, much better at FB, as good as Mamo is going forward he is a poor defensive FB.

As you have said I think you will be around 7th-9th.

If I was a Hudds fan, I would have serious doubts about the coach.

after 1 game.....BIZARRE

After thinking things over here are my thoughts.

We should have scored more points for all that first half pressure, but completely ‘goofed’ the second half.

The Hull left winger will never score three easier tries as Mackintosh is not a right winger and his positional play was shocking. Might have got away with it if Lawrence had stayed on he seemed to shore up the right hand side until he went off injured.

Our defensive line is shocking too many shooting out to make a magic play Turner for Jake Connors try was just stupid.

Missed tackles, stupid penalties no holding the defensive line, have we had a pre season?? same old same old after what was an encouraging start.

The kick into the wingers hands try down our right hand side in the second half the winger had so much time it was unbelievable as Mackintosh had gone AWOL again he could have stood still thought about it then scored you could see why Hull pinpointed it second half.

A long day for me to get to Hull for 35 minutes encouragement and 45 minutes of horror.

Teacher says ‘must do better’

Last season injuries and discipline were our issues.

After 1 game yes I can say half our squad is injured again:

Jerry
Leroy
Wakeman
Lawrence
Symonds - but no point really mentioning him. Obviously a bad one again.
Ikahihifo - they think was just exhaustion but could be something else.
Mellor
Wood
Ferguson - potentially injured too

After after 1 game has our discipline improved? No. Still our own worst enemy by knocking on at crucial points and giving away silly penalties which also lead to tries at certain times.

Brough also still as easy as ever to wind up and teams will target him all year.

For Smith, he should be very disappointed. He will be no where near our starting 17 without injuries and this was his chance to impress to show what he can do and make a claim. He will now be really down the pecking order.

The worry for me is that in 80 minutes we did not make a single break. We have some good attacking players but the style of rugby played is dire.

yes it was a poor night but still some positives, its the first game, one which i didnt think we would win anyway, had my money on hull fc -8 with the bookies

next weeks game against warrington is already a big one for us i feel!

ferguson in for lawrence

hopefully mcgillvary is back too.

ikahihifo isnt injured according to stone which is good news.

brough kicks out on the full and not one of the players has a go, brough knocks on from a poor pass from rankin.... he has a go.... been the problem with brough and teamates...seems ok for him to make a mistake but not others...dont like to see that

Yeah I totally agree with you there Brearley. Lose to Warrington at home and I think we are heading for another season similar to last one.

I was personally hoping Brough would leave in the off season. I hope this is his last season with us.

Disappointing as at 12-4 we we're in total control of the game but once again our heads went down too quickly after an error and that was it - game over, we stopped tackling, organising, communicating.

Another thing Mamo was awful, Grix got killed on here for better performances than than !!!.

Anyway it's 1 game, nothing is decided, i won't be making rash predictions anbd making ludicrous calls after 1 game.

There's work to do but we knew that anyway.

Hopefully Seb is alright for Thursday.

This is obviously why over 300 people did not renew their season tickets after 1 match ! Basic simple mistakes, schoolboy errors, no discipline, as soon as they go behind their heads drop. How did management expect any improvement from last season without new talent brought into the squad. Just cannot see any hope for the future. Too many championship players at best in our Super League Squad. Now its up to the players and management to prove me wrong.

Some realism is required. It was clearly a disappointing result but we had a huge gulf to close on Hull based on last season. Let's at least wait until we've played twice & had a game at home before too many judgements are made.

The realism is simple and obvious and not just from last night but for a while and the needs are rather simple

1. Lack an inspiring captain like a Sinfield or leader in the Luke O’Donnell mode

2. A defensive line that holds it shape

3. A killer instinct when we are on top

4. Bottle to admit players aren’t good enough and move them on Smith for example

5. A coach that can do a half time motivational piece cos last nights was obviously a doozy

6. Symonds has to play if not fit he should retire due to injury to claim the insurance and come off the salary cap so we can replace him

7 Don’t extend DB’s contract unfortunately a replacement is very difficult as a marquee Aussie is the best current offering

8. Get our strongest team on the field at least twice this season

We won’t go down but the JS has to be a fortress if we are to improve on last year or do anything in the cup or the 8th or 9th the press predict is just about right