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Here we go again two and a half hours drive to watch this !!! Good job it's not their proper side !!

Poor tackling mistakes Shocking !!!

Clueless !!!

Broughs kicking shocking !!!

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Well and we thought it couldn't get worse !!! Bad as we are don't need Silverwood as a dummy runner !!

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Abysmal, I said the same after the Catalan game and was told it was a bit harsh! and "one game doesn't make a season" etc etc. well all these its just one game/s add up to quite a few points lost. EVERY game counts.

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On the positive side, Ben Blackmore has been impressive.

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awful in defence. Surely against a team like saints you play a tackle machine like Lawrence or Bailey. You have to question what is going on when we cannot even do basics like making sure the defence comes out in one line. having said that when we did have the ball our two half backs and starting hooker were abysmal with ball in hand and with the kicking option on last tackle.

Today for me was embarrasing as St Helens where so far from been full strength

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All Saints did was read the 'how to beat Huddersfield' play book !!!

Run hard and straight tackle with a bit of aggression get into us and upset us then light the fuse and watch us fall apart and self destruct and boy did we !!!

No excuses this time they were/are not good enough !!!

The Man of Steel is turning into the the 'tin man' and the big men need to get some get up and go and mongrel.

They made every player the Saints fans have been whining about look world beaters.

I'll be there Thursday but it's time we moved up some gears cos £50 is a high price to pay for tonight's apology for Rugby League because in truth Saints weren't that good it was us that was poor !!!

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Lunt made one run from dummy half that I remember. The job he's doing my lad could do- pass the ball from the play the ball- job done. Brough hit and miss, leroy a shadow of last year. Those three are below par and we are suffering as a result.

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Actually thought Leroy did well.

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Absolutely crap. Sts didn't even play very well.just awful. Not one positive.

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Apart from the above it was quite a good performance from the giants

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Quote: the stella kid "Actually thought Leroy did well.'"

he gifted them one try, missed a tackle for another then stopped with the line begging instead of backing himself and going for the line.. Yes He DID do some good stuff too-some lovely linking with Ben- but these errors are not what we saw from him last year-he's better than that.
As a team we are doing badly and I think it's because individuals such as leroy Lunt and brough are playing below par.

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Anderson talks the talk then picks the same team .koppy and earl shouldn't start in fact the pack should be sent to Blackpool with the rest of the donkeys . we have our captain who spends more time sulking or refing than playing robbo well passed his sell by date if we cant beet a team if 9 men missing what chance have we got again no infusseasam no composer and no brains time for a clear out

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The one he missed I presume you mean the Wilkin try. It was a misunderstanding but was just as muc Robinsons fault. Which one was the try from his missed tacke? As for not backing himself. If he had gone on the outside he would have been tackled into touch.

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Quote: 40 year old giant "Anderson talks the talk then picks the same team .koppy and earl shouldn't start in fact the pack should be sent to Blackpool with the rest of the donkeys . we have our captain who spends more time sulking or refing than playing robbo well passed his sell by date if we cant beet a team if 9 men missing what chance have we got again no infusseasam no composer and no brains time for a clear out'"



Time for a clear out?

How does this work half way through a season. Tell me who you would get rid of and who they would be replaced with?

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At the risk of repeating myself we need to make some changes.

Danny Brough is a great player but a captain he ain't. He does not react well to adversity. He complains to the ref and Eorl has now started following suit.

We are slow starters. Why? Because (IMO) we know we are a decent side but aren't clever enough to realize we have to WORK HARD to win regardless of our ability. We are consistently out-enthused early doors to both halves and then play catch up.

PA should be seeing this. It has gone on long enough now. We have fallen in love with ourselves and our lack of leadership is stopping us from learning these lessons.

Short term I would put Bailey in at 13 and give him the armband. Let him talk to the ref and guide the team on the park. For games whee we need a big pack put him to 6 and DB to 7. We need someone to lead us.

Further to that, we need the coach and the players to have an epiphany. There is no use turning up at 20% and then switching on when we are three scores down. If we turn up like we did tonight, which we have turned up like so often this year, all it says to me is that we aren't playing for the coach.

They are better than this. I'd rather watch a team with less talent try hard, like 4-5 years ago. At least I could say we tried our best. Grix tonight didn't even try to get out of the in-goal area. He didn't even try. the game had gone but that isn't the point. He had no pride to even try and he's not alone.

This can't go on.

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