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| More importantly , if they are not going to get rid of Thewlis are they going to appoint a director of rugby to stop him making monumental cockups in the recruitment and retention department?
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| Quote ="Big Eorls Blouse"I thought that was a daft comment in an otherwise good interview from her.'"
From what i have been told today, there are problems brewing between the Giants and town regarding the stadium and i don't mean among the fans.
Only hearsay but watch this space, especially if town are still up next season.
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"From what i have been told today, there are problems brewing between the Giants and town regarding the stadium and i don't mean among the fans.
Only hearsay but watch this space, especially if town are still up next season.'" The stadium if thats what you are alluding to Jo is still a three way partnership as far as I know.
It could be interesting though.Maybe a move back to Fartown will be on the cards.
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| Quote ="bilko1941"The stadium if thats what you are alluding to Jo is still a three way partnership as far as I know.
It could be interesting though.Maybe a move back to Fartown will be on the cards.'" 0
Yes i know you are right about that bilko, but it's not an even split, and from what i'm told there are problems ahead. Football is King, awash with money, and can attract big money which needs top facilities, " which may be where the friction will come", League in comparison is seen and treated as a flat cappers sport.
As i said only hearsay but time will tell.
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"From what i have been told today, there are problems brewing between the Giants and town regarding the stadium and i don't mean among the fans.
Only hearsay but watch this space, especially if town are still up next season.'"
There have been problems since 2006.
I wouldn't call it trouble. Hoyle was at a Q&A on Saturday and was asked by a fan if there was a possibility of Town buying out The Giants. Hoyle said no, and he was unequivocal in expressing that this is very much the home of Huddersfield Giants as well and should remain as such. He did say though that he would like to open discussions again about how the office space is used as currently it's a 50/50 split and Town may need to expand should they stay up.
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| What's happening with the old Police training ground at the bottom of Big Valley? Ken bought it to develop into a training facility for the Giants. Maybe a possibility to build a small ground there and move into it if the Premier league insist that football clubs don't ground share. Remember Eorl Crabtree announcing plans in the examiner about the issue about a year or so ago but it's all gone quiet since then.
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| Quote ="djhudds"No guys you are wrong , jools says it’s coaches who signed them to 5 yr deals get it right please'"
jools is perfectly correct.
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| Quote ="Grandad 1"What's happening with the old Police training ground at the bottom of Big Valley? Ken bought it to develop into a training facility for the Giants. Maybe a possibility to build a small ground there and move into it if the Premier league insist that football clubs don't ground share. Remember Eorl Crabtree announcing plans in the examiner about the issue about a year or so ago but it's all gone quiet since then.
Grandad'"
There was an issue with drainage initially, then the pavilion was burned down and asbestos was found. That took an age to sort as kirklees have to approve a contractor to remove (am talking months and months, not days)
AFAIK the drainage is still an issue.
Seems daft buying it then letting it sit there for more than 5 years.....
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"jools is perfectly correct.'"
of course she is because you emailed thewlis and he told you he doesnt sign players, end of debate
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"jools is perfectly correct.'"
And you know this how ?
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"I don't care if he has been coaching a team of kids in the outback, If he is tough enough to stand no nonsense and can motivate them , he's what we need.
I want to see some one who can be the boss, rather than telling you how hard he's been on them in the examiner.'"
certainly what is needed
but someone like that prob wont get past the interview stage as thewlis will be doing the interviews!
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"certainly what is needed
but someone like that prob wont get past the interview stage as thewlis will be doing the interviews!'"
So it will have to be a yes man ?
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| yes ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"yes
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When can you start. ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="bilko1941"The stadium if thats what you are alluding to Jo is still a three way partnership as far as I know.
It could be interesting though.Maybe a move back to Fartown will be on the cards.'"
To the best of my knowledge, the stadium is split 40:40:20 between Town, Kirklees Council and some company related to the Giants.
In a dream world, Town would buy that 20% and it would be used to build a 12,000 capacity rugby ground at Fartown. The crazy economics of football are such that it would be a damn site cheaper to build a stadium at Fartown than for Town to sign a mediocre striker.
Sadly, it will never happen.
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| and where would we play whilst this dream stadium that you think can be built for peanuts is being built.
Shares were worth £2 each when Davy sold them back. Not sure we have 5 million of them to provide the 10 million we’d need to build it- even if we could find a suitable site. Those who think fartown - it will never happen as the site is simply no longer fit to have a stadium on in this day and age of the motor vehicle.
And that’s without taking into account we have a massively long lease, and we would need to get over all the legal caveats built in to prevent such a thing happening.
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| Peanuts?
£25million would build a perfectly decent RL stadium. That’s what Langtree Park cost.
Town have spent £45million so far this season on bringing players in.
Town are currently in 15th spot in the table. If that’s where they finish, their share of the prize money will be £108million
Believe me, if Town really want rid of the Giants the money is there. If they can string together a few years in the top flight, they could fart out a new rugby stadium every year and not notice.
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| Quote ="jools"
Shares were worth £2 each when Davy sold them back. Not sure we have 5 million of them to provide the 10 million we’d need to build it- even if we could find a suitable site. Those who think fartown - it will never happen as the site is simply no longer fit to have a stadium on in this day and age of the motor vehicle.
And that’s without taking into account we have a massively long lease, and we would need to get over all the legal caveats built in to prevent such a thing happening.'"
The shares in the stadium aren’t publicly traded, so they really are worth whatever the parties buying and selling them want them to be worth. That could be 20p or £20,000, it’s entirely up to them.
All leases and “legal caveats” are entirely surmountable if the parties involved want them to be.
The only really difficult, maybe impossible, problem you’ve mentioned with Fartown as a stadium site is the access. All the other problems are just a matter of getting all the stakeholders to decide to do it or not.
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| Quote ="Steve May"The shares in the stadium aren’t publicly traded, so they really are worth whatever the parties buying and selling them want them to be worth. That could be 20p or £20,000, it’s entirely up to them.
All leases and “legal caveats” are entirely surmountable if the parties involved want them to be.
The only really difficult, maybe impossible, problem you’ve mentioned with Fartown as a stadium site is the access. All the other problems are just a matter of getting all the stakeholders to decide to do it or not.'" All very well but can the Giants afford to run a new stadium?Not on crowds of 4k and more than likely in the Championship.
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| Quote ="bilko1941"All very well but can the Giants afford to run a new stadium?Not on crowds of 4k and more than likely in the Championship.'"
I agree with everything Steve May has said, If the parties wanted it done it could could be done. I also take your point which just re-enforces the argument that we are not really a Super league club, other than as making up the numbers till something better comes along, and we are not the only one, Far from it.
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"brian carney says he has heard a whisper the club are looking at an aussie whos not a head coach in the nrl... says fans will be underwhelmed..
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Simon Woolford is the name doing the rounds.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Simon Woolford is the name doing the rounds.'"
If this is true, then to me it implies that the board also think that Thorman is part of the problem. It's realistic to think that if Woolford is appointed, then Thorman won't be sticking around.
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| Quote ="bilko1941"All very well but can the Giants afford to run a new stadium?Not on crowds of 4k and more than likely in the Championship.'"
exactly.
perfectly fine where we are thanks, move on
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| yes woolford has popped up today as the front runner
never heard of him but then again never heard of tony smith or justin holbrook either!
former hooker for canberra.
working with nathan brown....... interesting!!! boomer has come here too so no doubt he has put a good word in for him or hes come over to check us our for woolford
we shall see
will he have to work with what we have or get his own back room staff.... think it will be the former as stone didnt get the luxury
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"exactly.
perfectly fine where we are thanks, move on'"
I think there are clearly more pressing problems facing the club so I’ll not comment further after this but I think the following:
The club has a massive identity problem, made worse by being seen as cuckooing in Town’s nest
The chances of the club ever pushing a 25,000 capacity are remote. They just don’t, and realistically never will, need those seats. Let’s not forget that under the licensing you got a point for an average of 10,000 and a point for averaging 40% of capacity. 40% of 25,000 is...
The atmosphere in the ground is terrible and will remain so unless we start to pull 12,000+. Which makes the Giants a bit of a sad proposition. Who wants to be part of a sp crowd rattling round a massive, empty ground.
On top of that there are many known problems with the way the stadium facilities are run (and for once we can’t blame Thewlis)
I really believe that the stadium is not an optimal home for the club. But it’s not going to change anytime soon so it’s really not worth commenting on further.
There are many, many things the club could do in the short/medium term beyond thinking about the stadium.
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