was the marketing better when robbie paul was pulling the strings....

hard to say really, there was certainly more of a buzz, but that could be down to the extra couple of thousand attracted by the cheap season tickets.
sadly those days seem light years away now.

Robbie is very astute and had a number of ideas but unfortunately he didn't have the budget to implement them

i started watching in 1987,JJ, so no i wasn't one of the 303ers but i know of some who were there.
but you have some good point also, in 2008 we averaged 7,820 which was our highest average since about 1973 i read somewhere, we have seen increases in only 2 seasons after this, but yet, strangely the figure for 2013 when we won the LLS was the lowest since 2007! maybe people don't want success after all?

but it is a worry and to me there are various factors rather than just one

cost
day and time of the game
people just generally fed up with the game
other commitments, family, work etc
and as you said, entertainment, value for money
most of these factors are out of the clubs hands, except maybe cost and some would say entertainment/value for money, so if i was the CEO i would want to try and find out why people aren't coming, and what, if anything, the club could do to entice people to come back or indeed to start coming.

like i said there is a big retail park over the road, another one not too far away,there's a cinema complex, a pub, restaurant , leisure centre etc next door to the stadium which all seem to be busy with people on a matchday, have the club ever sought to make contact with these people and find out if there's an interest in the giants amongst them?
i realise they are all competitors for consumer's time and money, but could we not work with them? offer discounts with the cinema, pizza hut etc?

I think a lot of those things may reap some reward if explored Meast, but if I am honest I don't see any one of them making a huge change to our crowds, that's not to say they can't be explored.
TBC made a point about people wanting to watch winners, and he / she mentioned Bradford as a example, It's indisputable that Bradford really grasped the concept of Summer Rugby, They are one of the most successful sides ever in Super league.

Yes they are paying for it now because they were spending money they didn't have, But the crowds of 20,000 + plus didn't give a fig for that at the time, and the main thing was ,they were winning things regularly, and they were good to watch, some of the Derby games with Leeds were as good as S league has ever got, and I've heard it said on here , there were more Bulls fans in Huddersfield than Giants.

So I say lets make an attempt to get crowds in by putting on some style, What we are doing now isn't working, What's to lose, We had made a start a few years ago, now we are right back where we were, One very good game where they play really well and compete with the best followed by weeks of poor stuff, It needs a whole different approach to our game, and it maybe that it's not possible, but is it not worth a try.

Am I going mad? I seem to remember folk moaning about the style of rugby NB had the giants playing.......

Well I didn't post on here in those days, so I didn't moan about N Brown, Yes it all went belly up for some reason ( I don't know what ) But till it did we looked a lot better than we had before or since, we were I thought playing some good Football, and Didn't we get Coach and club of the year along with MOS.

N Brown was very good at improving individual Players, He brought some of our players to a new level.
So what do you think jools are you happy with things ?, What does anyone think ? Are they happy to just keep saying " look where we were 25 years ago " We would be a lot better thinking about where we are likely to be 25 years on, If something doesn't change.

It might be that just nothing can be done, In which case enjoy what there is while It's still here.