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Actually thought Leroy did well.

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Absolutely crap. Sts didn't even play very well.just awful. Not one positive.

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Apart from the above it was quite a good performance from the giants

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Quote: the stella kid "Actually thought Leroy did well.'"

he gifted them one try, missed a tackle for another then stopped with the line begging instead of backing himself and going for the line.. Yes He DID do some good stuff too-some lovely linking with Ben- but these errors are not what we saw from him last year-he's better than that.
As a team we are doing badly and I think it's because individuals such as leroy Lunt and brough are playing below par.

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Anderson talks the talk then picks the same team .koppy and earl shouldn't start in fact the pack should be sent to Blackpool with the rest of the donkeys . we have our captain who spends more time sulking or refing than playing robbo well passed his sell by date if we cant beet a team if 9 men missing what chance have we got again no infusseasam no composer and no brains time for a clear out

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The one he missed I presume you mean the Wilkin try. It was a misunderstanding but was just as muc Robinsons fault. Which one was the try from his missed tacke? As for not backing himself. If he had gone on the outside he would have been tackled into touch.

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Quote: 40 year old giant "Anderson talks the talk then picks the same team .koppy and earl shouldn't start in fact the pack should be sent to Blackpool with the rest of the donkeys . we have our captain who spends more time sulking or refing than playing robbo well passed his sell by date if we cant beet a team if 9 men missing what chance have we got again no infusseasam no composer and no brains time for a clear out'"



Time for a clear out?

How does this work half way through a season. Tell me who you would get rid of and who they would be replaced with?

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At the risk of repeating myself we need to make some changes.

Danny Brough is a great player but a captain he ain't. He does not react well to adversity. He complains to the ref and Eorl has now started following suit.

We are slow starters. Why? Because (IMO) we know we are a decent side but aren't clever enough to realize we have to WORK HARD to win regardless of our ability. We are consistently out-enthused early doors to both halves and then play catch up.

PA should be seeing this. It has gone on long enough now. We have fallen in love with ourselves and our lack of leadership is stopping us from learning these lessons.

Short term I would put Bailey in at 13 and give him the armband. Let him talk to the ref and guide the team on the park. For games whee we need a big pack put him to 6 and DB to 7. We need someone to lead us.

Further to that, we need the coach and the players to have an epiphany. There is no use turning up at 20% and then switching on when we are three scores down. If we turn up like we did tonight, which we have turned up like so often this year, all it says to me is that we aren't playing for the coach.

They are better than this. I'd rather watch a team with less talent try hard, like 4-5 years ago. At least I could say we tried our best. Grix tonight didn't even try to get out of the in-goal area. He didn't even try. the game had gone but that isn't the point. He had no pride to even try and he's not alone.

This can't go on.

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A very frustrating game that was. Awful conditions and a pathetic refereeing performance for both teams.

Result doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things but I think the performance needs to improve dramatically because we are playing boring rugby. We are lacking fight and enthusiasm.

Thought Blackmore was very good!
Koppy was very good today.
Kicking game was rubbish! The tactics seemed good until Saints scored.
Crabtree looks like he needs a rest...
Robbo wasn't really used.
Have I missed something with Baily and Lawrence having time off playing?
Brough has to start setting an example and using his captaincy because there's times we look abit lost.

We all know we are better than this so I'm hoping it was just one of them days.

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Quote: Danril "At the risk of repeating myself we need to make some changes.

Danny Brough is a great player but a captain he ain't. He does not react well to adversity. He complains to the ref and Eorl has now started following suit.

We are slow starters. Why? Because (IMO) we know we are a decent side but aren't clever enough to realize we have to WORK HARD to win regardless of our ability. We are consistently out-enthused early doors to both halves and then play catch up.

PA should be seeing this. It has gone on long enough now. We have fallen in love with ourselves and our lack of leadership is stopping us from learning these lessons.

Short term I would put Bailey in at 13 and give him the armband. Let him talk to the ref and guide the team on the park. For games whee we need a big pack put him to 6 and DB to 7. We need someone to lead us.

Further to that, we need the coach and the players to have an epiphany. There is no use turning up at 20% and then switching on when we are three scores down. If we turn up like we did tonight, which we have turned up like so often this year, all it says to me is that we aren't playing for the coach.

They are better than this. I'd rather watch a team with less talent try hard, like 4-5 years ago. At least I could say we tried our best. Grix tonight didn't even try to get out of the in-goal area. He didn't even try. the game had gone but that isn't the point. He had no pride to even try and he's not alone.

This can't go on.'"



Swap some of the names and you could be a Saints poster. I'm not here stirring, but I read that and thought, that's what we were all saying last week. Hence why Mose came out tonight with a bit of the mongrel about him.

I'm starting to wonder if this is the fault that runs through SL, apart from one or 2 teams (Leeds Wigan this year), every year there are half decent sides out there but they have a culture of coasting. Last year Huddersfield proved to be contenders and from what you have posted feel that the job is half done.

Saints too have weeks were we are great then a period of being the big time charlies. No one putting a hand up to do the dirty work

I know injuries play their part, but as SL fans, that intensity does not seem to stay consistently high unless you are the top top team.

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Paul Anderson ... 'We just didn't turn up ' !!!!!

Unfortunately I did give us a tip next time Paul and I'll stay at home too and save my £50 for something I might enjoy and get some value for my money !!!

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STILL ON THE BUS!!!!.. are you sure they got on the bus to start with lol

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Thought Brough, Robinson and Lunt your pivotal players were below par last night.
Silverwood was very poor for both teams last night and never felt an 18 point lead was enough until the last 15 mins.
Wigan next game up hope your team respond to the next challenge.

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The match was lost in the first 12 minutes - 18 points down.
Kopczak, Robinson and Lunt all gifted tries with pathetic defence in that period.
Someone said Koppy did well - I find that astonishing, he can be a very good prop, but he looks way off the pace. I would recall Kaufusi and give
Koppy a good rest.
Robbo is another that needs a rest', again he can be a very good player but is currently awful. As well as being directly responsible for 2 Saints tries his passing last night was consistently behind the man.
Just checked stats on SL website - pathetic. Koppy 7 carries for 46, given the minutes he played that is just lazy.
As a pack we only made Masoe make 12 tackles, that confirms my feeling that we didn't even try to dominate a Saints pack weakened by injuries.
Only Blackmore has decent stats.

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Lawrence should be one of the 1st names on the team sheet imo. Yes he doesnt offer much attack but his defence is much needed in the team at the moment. Bailey needs to be in there somewhere too.
koppy , eorl , robbo , chan , leroy all look like they need a good rest.
I think we look better with wood and brough @ 6/7
We deffo miss that enforcer we had , LOD then fielden our props are far too nice and dont run there weight , only one who runs hard on a consistent basis is LP .

IMO we require another 2 props for some grunt up field. The lack of forward power is reflecting in broughy game, hes not getting the time and space any more to dictate the game which leads to throwing his toys at the pram .
We deffo lack a plan b , our pivot players are seriously under performing however there not been given much of a chance!!!

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