The worry for me is that in 80 minutes we did not make a single break. We have some good attacking players but the style of rugby played is dire.

yes it was a poor night but still some positives, its the first game, one which i didnt think we would win anyway, had my money on hull fc -8 with the bookies

next weeks game against warrington is already a big one for us i feel!

ferguson in for lawrence

hopefully mcgillvary is back too.

ikahihifo isnt injured according to stone which is good news.

brough kicks out on the full and not one of the players has a go, brough knocks on from a poor pass from rankin.... he has a go.... been the problem with brough and teamates...seems ok for him to make a mistake but not others...dont like to see that

Yeah I totally agree with you there Brearley. Lose to Warrington at home and I think we are heading for another season similar to last one.

I was personally hoping Brough would leave in the off season. I hope this is his last season with us.

Disappointing as at 12-4 we we're in total control of the game but once again our heads went down too quickly after an error and that was it - game over, we stopped tackling, organising, communicating.

Another thing Mamo was awful, Grix got killed on here for better performances than than !!!.

Anyway it's 1 game, nothing is decided, i won't be making rash predictions anbd making ludicrous calls after 1 game.

There's work to do but we knew that anyway.

Hopefully Seb is alright for Thursday.

This is obviously why over 300 people did not renew their season tickets after 1 match ! Basic simple mistakes, schoolboy errors, no discipline, as soon as they go behind their heads drop. How did management expect any improvement from last season without new talent brought into the squad. Just cannot see any hope for the future. Too many championship players at best in our Super League Squad. Now its up to the players and management to prove me wrong.

Some realism is required. It was clearly a disappointing result but we had a huge gulf to close on Hull based on last season. Let's at least wait until we've played twice & had a game at home before too many judgements are made.

The realism is simple and obvious and not just from last night but for a while and the needs are rather simple

1. Lack an inspiring captain like a Sinfield or leader in the Luke O’Donnell mode

2. A defensive line that holds it shape

3. A killer instinct when we are on top

4. Bottle to admit players aren’t good enough and move them on Smith for example

5. A coach that can do a half time motivational piece cos last nights was obviously a doozy

6. Symonds has to play if not fit he should retire due to injury to claim the insurance and come off the salary cap so we can replace him

7 Don’t extend DB’s contract unfortunately a replacement is very difficult as a marquee Aussie is the best current offering

8. Get our strongest team on the field at least twice this season

We won’t go down but the JS has to be a fortress if we are to improve on last year or do anything in the cup or the 8th or 9th the press predict is just about right

Such a positive outlook, bet you've been dying for the new season to start

It does make me chuckle to read the moaning about moaning.
How about you post the positives to remind everyone!

The positives are it's only a game, it's a sport, a chance to meet up with mates and have a laugh at the end of a week, it's not that important where folk need to almost cry themselves to sleep......if we lose we lose if we win, well we will have an extra beer to celebrate.

That's fair enough Daz, The Giants are obviously a big part of your social life, But you will find very few people who feel the same, They are a very minor part of a lot of peoples life, But we are all what we are, To me your attitude reflects that of the club, complete lack of ambition which everyone on this site knows deep down, seeing a win as some kind of bonus.
It's one of the reasons season tickets never increase, the other being a complete lack of style in their play, other than the odd game here and there. I Fear we will be one of the teams making up the numbers again, Not because of one game but because we don't have a serious S league squad, or we don't have anyone at the club who knows how to get them earning their money.

I’m not sure that’s going to convince a lot of folk-not everyone is there for the beer- nothing positive from the actual game then