Even though he has another year on his contract and wants to stay, it did look that way.

If Faiumu is staying, and I hope he is, he needs to be given a position and allowed to play in in consistantly whether it be hooker or loose forward - not moving between hooker, loose forward and prop.

For some of us who watched rugby league before the Superleague started, the true champions are the ones who perform the best throughout the season and end up top of the league at the end of it.

I am one of those supporters and, win or lose next week, I will still regard Huddersfield as the true champions this year.

Of course we wouldn't throw the SL trophy into the Mersey, should we win it next week. Winning any trophy is a good for fans and club, of course it is, but it still doesn't match being the winners of the league, minus the knock out rounds, in my mind. This is my opinion

Then you are deluded.

If winning the LLS made a club the "true champions" you'd see a totally different approach to the way the season was played from the top 4/5 teams in the Super League.

The regular season is simply a mechanism to decide which clubs enter into the Championship Play-offs.

If you don't or refuse to believe this then you haven't grasped how rugby league has decided it's champions for a vast majority of it's 118 year history.

i agree, also want faiumu to stay. Hope he is, takes up quite abit of the salary cap though and not getting any younger so can see the reasons if he is going.. lets hope he stays.

Always makes me laugh when people call themselves traditionalists and yet have no idea about the traditional RL method of selecting the champions. Normally in the same breath as claiming SL invented the idea of playoffs.

only leeds fans care about the grand final anyway,its the only trophy they can win
to the rest of us it means nothing

I ain't doubting winning the SL is the 'big one' but when anyone (mainly neutral posters) come on here and say in their eyes/opinion the LLS is the true winners, it's nearly always Leeds fans who come on to our boards and rip into them (to use an Eorl saying).

It's like they have to defend winning the SL title, isn't enough for them, they have to ram it down their throats, that that's all that counts, maybe because they could finish top for a number of seasons but won the SL at the end of the season.

and for what its worth I want Leeds to win the thing this year, now we are out, as they are the remaining Yorkshire club left.

If final position means nothing why is each and every board full of - where we will finish this season threads, and 1-14 predictions in january?!

well we still finished above leeds however you look at it

I guess we can say we are the best team in Yorkshire this term, which for a club like ours is a massive achievement in itself.

And the only team in Yorkshire to have won sommert Wether it's worth nowt or not ;0)