Your problem Jools is that you are too close to the situation. Anderson is taking you nowhere which is sad with the talent you have. Once a prop - always a prop. Durham Giant is the man on here who says it as it is rather than what you would like it to be.

anderson didnt actually blame the loss on the ref, he just wondered why the game was reffed differently in the second half when the teams played the same way but one got 7 pens and the other 1 pen and two sin bins.

also he said the loss was also down to our own doing not being there with our completion rate

but what gets highlighted by the media is another thing and the questions are put to him about the ref

Well he couldn't blame injuries this time could he? I mean wigan had around 7 regular first teamers missing and we had 2 (i don't count grix, because his replacement was far better), and yet they still managed to beat us.. in the last ten minutes.. again

Seems like Joe had another good game at Widnes, Denis Betts will be the next to 'cop' a fine

yep another nightmare at widnes

betts will have a fine on the way too

Well our Joe must like Wigan.

Tomkins and Hardaker committed the same offence a professional foul both were penalised Hardaker went to the bin Tomkins didn't wouldn't have made any difference to the result but highlights the inconsistent refereeing in the game today !!

I must admit, the one in the very next set, due to losing ball, by the Wigan player had me shouting at the screen. I'd love to know why he thought one was 10 and the other wasn't.

Liked the consistency of the refs over interference at play the ball.Made the game a lot quicker and I did not notice any complaints from players

He doesn't like us at all does he ??

His policing of the offside was shocking, how many penalties have Saints to concede to get a team warning.

He saw Symonds obstruction but not Wilkins on Cudjoe or the other in the second half but we deserve to lose but he doesn't deserve being a Superleague ref on what I've seen of him !!

Spotted our forward passes too and when Brough speak as to the ref bang sin bin half the Saints team were at it today, LMS, Walsh, Wilkin, Lomax et all lease keep him away from the middle 8's

On recent showings please keep him away from R L or send him a 10metre tape and some specs!

We were dire --but he was worse!

poor ref, what was the point in running over to the linesman for the first try to have a chat then running back to award it again? the linesman obv has something to say, poss that it was offside!! but still


but when your bottom of the league you dont get the calls im afraid

Classic 'slow ruck skinny 10' from Cobbhead the ........

It was as poor a refereeing display i've seen for a long time, he completely lost control of the ruck and the offsides, for both teams i will add,allowed many forward passes, high shots and other misdemeanours go, but then pulled random ones up which we nowhere near as bad.
He seemed to be totally bullied by LMS, Wilkin and Walsh and just seemed oblivious to what both teams were doing, although saints were far worse.
No sour grapes, he didn't influence the result, we saw to that ourselves, but had we won i would have said the same!

Hope Silvers comes back soon,he dunt allow any slowing down of the ruck.