Full back must be the most thankless task in the team. You're expected to organise the defence, tackle like a machine, run the ball out strongly, catch everything that comes your way AND help out as a ball-playing member of the attack.

Grix is a totally different type of player to Hodgson, and by no means the worst full back in SL. From what I've seen of him he's served you well, and definitely earns his place.

If and when he is injured or rested, though, and you try Murphy in his place he'll struggle to get it back.

Murphy is a good player- but his skill set doesn't lend himself to fullback in the team we have this season - perhaps next year with bailey coming playing him as a ball playing loose could allow us to play murphy there.

Alternatively, perhaps showing how loud and vociferous a small section can be.

Hmm, didn't remember you telling others to not gang up on poor little me!

The whole purpose of my original post was to point out the difference in contribution last week between SG & BH.

The whole point is that the mistake rate was similar but contribution to the game vastly different.

My point is that if SG makes mistakes but makes an overall positive contribution to the game then I have no issues it's three errors and not much else that was my concern !!!!

Against Leeds he scored a try to balance his mistakes but needs to have a better impact against Hull & Wire and along with the rest of the team not give away cheap possession in our own half or 20.

Jools and Ivor you have a right to your opinion as does everyone else on here even the ones who slag off us dinosaurs who don't want to stand with them and sing !!!!!

But with a 5,000 hardcore support perhaps we should allow people to do their own thing and have opinions not 'diss' them and I will be at Hull on Sunday and Warrington and have a season ticket which goes back to 1972 when I was 16.

If you read my previous posts I believe we have a very good side and coach far better than the dark days which makes us dinosaurs appreciate these times more than most but with a right to an opinion !!!!

We're Huddersfield fans, we have to bicker about something apparently

I don't think we know how to handle being a decent team yet ;D

Not much else? What about the two try saving tackles he did make? That's a third of his tackles prevented tries! Shame murphy messed up on the next play the ball to let cats score after one of them. If he's tackling a lot it surely it suggests hes not organising the defensive line properly- or others aren't tackling as they should. Work rate? he probably does more running than most of the team- just a lot of it isnt with ball in hand! What about that fabulous kick from deep in his own half that taia had to chase back for and got us out of trouble. There's more to a positive contribution than scoring tries. - which against Leeds was simply about being in the right place at the right time. stats are useful and have the stats for Brett Hodgson- doesn't really give the whole story though does it.

Don't play the dinosaur who's been following Fartown for years card with Ivor, I'm sure he saw Harold Wagstaff play...

Just out of interest which try from last week do you blame Murphy for.

There were mistakes in the build up to the tries so maybe you mean one of these.
But of the four tries scored one was a missed tackle (ferguson) one was from walking away from marker before the ball was played (George) one the winger ran straight over the top of the man (Grix) and the other was from a kick and there were three players around Duport when he scored.

Why can't we get away from this blame culture Rugby League is a team game and as such takes the blame and credit collectively.

I don't think the one you apportion to Luke george was his fault, if you get the chance to watch a replay you will see the Catalans player playing the ball (Escare I think?) moves sideways off the mark, Luke changes direction to "get square" and is then completely off balance when the dummy half goes blind. That is precisely why you are not supposed to move off the mark - very rare they get given so we should not be too bothered, but had Luke not got square he would probably have been sin binned (wrongly by the letter of the law but that is how it is normally reffed and pro players really should play to the ref). I think a sin-binning at that point would have been more of an issue than the try.

I assume this was the try Murphy is carrying the can for, really cannot see how it could be one of the others. Personally I think it was streetwise play by the Dragons, but it is not hard to see why others may feel George or Murphy were to blame.

Also the kick was a miss match, no way Danny Brough can out jump Vincent Duport, again heads up play by the Dragons isolating Danny like that. Both those tries could have been defended better collectively, but I think harsh to blame on individual errors.

The one where Grix was bowled over, I initially thought that was a poor effort, but having watched again, we were stretched by the knock on and free play, Scot Grix covered loads of ground to try and get there but didn't get set properly to take the winger into touch, but he got there, had it not been a free play the guy may not have gone for it, but he knew they were keeping the ball whatever. It was actually a huge effort from Grix just to get there, if you look where he started (by the post) he certainly doesn't deserve criticism for that.

interesting point that last one giant dee - since if grix hadnt bothered to make the effort it wouldnt be a "missed tackle"!

thats exactly how i saw it too dont think murphy was to blame for any, the one where george ran away from marker was poor!