Lawrence .....
15 carries for over 100 m , 46 tackles made with no misses

Not entirely sure what you expect

I dont really understand what is been done with Lawrence. we use him as a body who can can make tackles all day long but now trying to beef him up even more. surely this is going to have an effect on how long he can play. he really does need to start having more of an impact in attack for me then maybe we wouldnt need to do as much defending in the first place.

hes making 15 carries a game for over 100 meters , playing longer than average props and making twice as many tackles due to the amount of minutes he plays and isn't on no where near the money some players are on down there ( so he is good value for money comparing his stats across super league ) , what sort of impact are you expecting sorry ?

To maybe break at least one tackle a season. if he is doing 15 carries and only doing 100m that is only 6.5m per run hardly a big carry that is it.

* OVER

Which is only 1/2 a metre less per carry than Seb this year.
Watch what Lawrence does- wins the collision almost EVERY time, he’s rarely turned on his back- that means a quick ptb for other players to exploit the gaps left by defenders not back.

Jools.....which 2 of Matagi, Taai, Seb and English are missing out? Clough and Bruno are sure starters for the 8 and 10 shirt next year.

I’m case you haven’t noticed you need a strong SQUAD. To cope with injuries- no one is saying he WILL be playing every game- but to bag him for me is wrong. And Matagi hasn’t even arrived let alone proven his worth and you are putting him as a first choice!


Some people want all the forwards to be busting tackles and making breaks each time they take the ball in and the backs to score full length or acrobatic tries every five minutes- and yes that’s exciting -so of course it’s what we as supporters want to see but they don’t recognise how defending well, getting a quick ptb, being discliplined, kicking well, keeping shape, making good choices, are just as likely to win games and lay a platform for the exciting stuff to happen.

Bruno also does two other things well, he rarely misses a tackle and has an excellent discipline record- rarely gives away stupid penalties- how many times have we conceded a try this season after Seb or leeming has given away a penalty?

which ever coach we have had and whichever internationals we have had over the last 10 years , lawrence has always played ( at least 18-20 games a year ) , must be doing something right to be picked , good job the team isn't picked on how many men they run over or how many tries they score isn't it .... fickle

Well guys you cannot argue both ways. One saying it is a squad game and the other saying fans are fickle for debating who in that squad gets first team choice???
Can personally understand the questions around Bruno - he is a beast, makes good metres, rarely makes mistakes, good discipline, a very good RL player who would get in any SL team. Rate him very highly and defensively we are always better when he is on the field.
Think he could and should provide offloads though as 99% predictable on every carry.

Am not saying he is a bad player but i just dont see him as a prop. yes he is good at making tackles but as a prop surly busting one or 2 tackles a season should be a must or providing a offload at least. running in and dropping to your knees instantly is not winning a tackle.

it is if you get a quick play the ball and a broken line to attack off the back of that

You dont need to be big to do that he was doing the same when he was 3 stone lighter and he still had a bit of speed then as well

Probably rarely makes mistakes because he is predictable and disciplined.
If you want offloads xpect more errors / mistakes. It's a risky business offloading.

So is passing. Other teams seem to manage to offload ok, some of them at will against us.