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| Quote GiantDee="GiantDee"The match was lost in the first 12 minutes - 18 points down.
Kopczak, Robinson and Lunt all gifted tries with pathetic defence in that period.
Someone said Koppy did well - I find that astonishing, he can be a very good prop, but he looks way off the pace. I would recall Kaufusi and give
Koppy a good rest.
Robbo is another that needs a rest', again he can be a very good player but is currently awful. As well as being directly responsible for 2 Saints tries his passing last night was consistently behind the man.
Just checked stats on SL website - pathetic. Koppy 7 carries for 46, given the minutes he played that is just lazy.
As a pack we only made Masoe make 12 tackles, that confirms my feeling that we didn't even try to dominate a Saints pack weakened by injuries.
Only Blackmore has decent stats.'"
I believe I said it. I'm not one for stats or anything like that but watching the game Koppy didn't just surrender or flop when coming into contact with the opposition. He broke the line again which he has done a few times recently. He got back into the line quicker than he has done recently. He looked eager which is all we can ask for. He's not at his best yet but stood out for me in a team were most lacked any enthusiasm.
He's been getting abit of stick recently... He's not blind to it so to show fight is encouraging.
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| Quote Ivor C&G Scarf="Ivor C&G Scarf"
I'm going to write to the RFL and ask them when the rule for a try changed from 'downward pressure' to 'simply having some contact with the ball', though I suppose it says in the rules 'at least sideways pressure'.'"
Well, considering it was given as a penalty try, I assume their reply would be that the amount of downward pressure is irrelevant...
Quote Ivor C&G Scarf="Ivor C&G Scarf"And shouldn't we have had a penalty when they scored under the posts in the 2nd half? I mean, didn't their 14th man obstruct one of our defenders?'"
Why should Saints be penalised when THEY did nothing wrong? I agree it was very poor from Silverwood but it was HIS mistake. You can't penalise Saints for a mistake made by the ref.
Thought your lads were poor last night, which came as a surprise to me because I was expecting a hammering. Danny Brough is great on his day but god, does he waste a lot of his energy whinging. Anyway, hope you guys find your form soon, as you were great to watch last year. Next week would be a great time to find it 
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| Quote the stella kid="the stella kid"Actually thought Leroy did well.'"
me too put blackmore over for two tries
did great to track back and catch dawson too
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| thought crabtree played well lastnight too.
the journey over was a shocker on the m62
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| Quote The Reaper="The Reaper"Well, considering it was given as a penalty try, I assume their reply would be that the amount of downward pressure is irrelevant...'"
I was expecting a penalty try, but did not see any reference to one being given, hence my dissatisfaction with an 'ordinary' try being awarded.
I was also under the impression that if the player with the ball came into contact with an official, the game was stopped. I'm sure that your player did touch Silverwood.
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| we were awful just awful, we were lacking from the first minute and the game was over after 15 minutes, we did well to get back into it at 18-6 then self destructed again.. i might be in the minority here.. but when leroy tried the flick on to blackmore which led to their 4th try i thought he should have just caught the ball,taken the tackle and make saints start a set from near their own line, something they didn't do much..instead of building pressure we try and force the pass/offloads trying to score all the time.
we are beaten when the opposition do the basics right and we don't, we look to try and score every set rather than just build pressure and turn the opposition round.
last night we were given the run around by wellens and wilkin!
PA said we lacked intensity from the off and that they responded to some harsh words last week, maybe we could try that?
rather than just taking it easy and hoping things will go our way, i can't remember too many games this season when we have come out and forced the opposition onto the back foot, it's the other way round and it's the one thing thats letting us down at the moment.
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| Quote Ivor C&G Scarf="Ivor C&G Scarf"I was expecting a penalty try, but did not see any reference to one being given, hence my dissatisfaction with an 'ordinary' try being awarded.
I was also under the impression that if the player with the ball came into contact with an official, the game was stopped. I'm sure that your player did touch Silverwood.'"
The video ref announced it when he gave the decision.
And not sure on the ruling of that one, and not sure whether he did actually touch Silverwood or not. I thought he didn't, but rather just hit the gap.
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| Quote the stella kid="the stella kid"awful in defence. Surely against a team like saints you play a tackle machine like Lawrence or Bailey. You have to question what is going on when we cannot even do basics like making sure the defence comes out in one line. having said that when we did have the ball our two half backs and starting hooker were abysmal with ball in hand and with the kicking option on last tackle.
Today for me was embarrasing as St Helens where so far from been full strength'"
I posted after the London game and below was your response to me.
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You do spout some absolute negative rubbish. The giants have won four on the bounce but according to you there is no effort.
You mention the Bradford game.Remind me what score that was. I could carry on but I won't because you post just makes me so angry.
sorry to upset ya fella but im not for a minute gonna pretend im happy with how we are going this season. I stick by what I said, Bradford next then 3 tough games in Wigan, Saints and Leeds and if we put the same effort we have against Widnes and Catalans to name 2 we wont get many wins. That is my opinion and im bloody angry too with what I feel is a lack of urgency and enthusiasm so far this season. We won the League last year by putting the hardwork in and have kept the same squad, Wire and Wigan have both lost top top.players and are weaker for it. We should have kicked on from.last season and it hasnt happened. Sorry but ask around and reckon majority agree we not where we should be.
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| Friday was very poor I agree. what is needed now is a positive response against Wigan.
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| Do you think that Kafusi and Bailey should have been given more opportunity to gel before being dropped/shipped out? I know they've been training with the boys etc. but training matches aren't a full blooded Super League game...?
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| Quote Baron Greenback="Baron Greenback"Do you think that Kafusi and Bailey should have been given more opportunity to gel before being dropped/shipped out? I know they've been training with the boys etc. but training matches aren't a full blooded Super League game...?'"
I don't think in Kafusi's case he was shipped out because of the team play part of the game. He couldn't get back into the line after making a tackle quick enough. He wasn't needed for us at that point. If he comes back like Mullally did we are in for a treat.
I don't think Anderson has decided his first team yet tbh. Too much competition.
It almost excites me for the back end of the season if we aren't injury ridden.
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| bring kaufusi back i think, or is anderson just feeling sorry for the bulls ..his former employer?
does anyone play for our link up club batley bulldogs?!
anderson clearly does not like offloads, are the Giants becoming boring under him?
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