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| Quote ="fartown since 1961"Not at all the post was borne out of frustration and I wasn't blaming the club but rather the individuals who disappeared from the week before.
For more than 50 years I have stood on the terraces through thick and thin and watched thin a lot more than thick incidentally, so where is it so wrong to ask an obvious question?
In the area where I sit it was obvious that many super league regulars were missing however yesterday Castleford only got 3,317 so that must have been the case there too.
So I apologise to all the people that didn't turn up and have to accept that what appears to be an old fashioned ideal that I have that the Challenge Cup and a visit to Wembley is one of the highlights of the season is really just a distraction from what's really important.
It's not that long ago albeit at ten quid a ticket we got 9,000 to a challenge cup tie with Leeds.
Where both clubs were in the league shouldn't have mattered as knockout football is always fascinating to watch but then the 'stay aways' missed a really good cup tie but maybe that's just good old fashioned me speaking.'"
No need to apologize mate people don't have to answer if they don't want. I think a better question than do we deserve a rugby team might be. Does Huddersfield want a rugby team, The clear answer to that is , A few do , the majority care either way as long as they are not expected to go down.
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| Quote ="brearley84"fair weather fans dont want to pay on top of the season ticket
or maybe we just gave loads of tickets away for the league game previous friday, look how many kids were playing at half time on the field and the band going round'"
Castleford only got a little over 3000 for their cup tie on a Saturday afternoon. Funnily enough no dig from Peter smith of the Yorkshire evening post for that crowd figure. But then he's not a Salford fan he's a Leeds fan so didn't feel the need to put in a dig like he did against us.
Crowd numbers for the challenge cup rounds have been steadily dropping- given the way it's scheduled it's not surprising really.
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| Quote ="brearley84"fair weather fans dont want to pay on top of the season ticket
or maybe we just gave loads of tickets away for the league game previous friday, look how many kids were playing at half time on the field and the band going round'"
Think you make a good point here.
It makes you wonder how many years it is going to take for enough of the post 1960's Huddersfield public to get Rugby League truly into their blood,because if it's not truly in the blood then they might/probably will take it if they get a freebie or well reduced price - but otherwise will just leave it.
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| You only have to look over at Bradfords time line From the heights of Bullmania to where they are now in order to see how a huge fanbase slowly dwindled away.
The truth of it all is that, other than the hardcore fans the rest are a fickle bunch who demand sustained success.
Success = fans.
Leaves a sour taste in the mouth but it's an unavoidable truth....
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| Quote ="Fifth Tackle"You only have to look over at Bradfords time line From the heights of Bullmania to where they are now in order to see how a huge fanbase slowly dwindled away.
The truth of it all is that, other than the hardcore fans the rest are a fickle bunch who demand sustained success.
Success = fans.
Leaves a sour taste in the mouth but it's an unavoidable truth....'"
I respect your opinion to which you are fully entitled,but we don't even have a sizable fickle bunch unfortunately.
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| Neither did Bradford but their success allowed them to poach supporters from surrounding areas
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| Bradford always had a hard core of 5k even in the bad days.
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| The Giants have some very loyal supporters and ertainly deserve a SL team, but the question was do Huddersfield, and the answer to that is NO. l go to the gam and back by bus an foot, and its always groundhog day. "are the giants playing today", no lm in fancy dress., " l was going to go but " out comes the book of excuses.
Same on the way home, "how did they get on", l usually ignore them.
lf we get to Wembley there will be 20000 plus all professing to be lifelong supporters.
l have said it before. the general public of Huddersfield are some of the most tight fisted miserable folk l have ever met
and they deserve what they get
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| Quote ="boomer"The Giants have some very loyal supporters and ertainly deserve a SL team, but the question was do Huddersfield, and the answer to that is NO. l go to the gam and back by bus an foot, and its always groundhog day. "are the giants playing today", no lm in fancy dress., " l was going to go but " out comes the book of excuses.
Same on the way home, "how did they get on", l usually ignore them.
lf we get to Wembley there will be 20000 plus all professing to be lifelong supporters.
[ul have said it before. the general public of Huddersfield are some of the most tight fisted miserable folk l have ever met
and they deserve what they get[/u'"
I've heard all the arguments over the years but I think this sum it up perfectly.
I'm Huddersfield born and bred and generally I believe we are in the main friendly and generous in spirit.
BUT........
Given the chance for a good old moan and / or complaining at being asked to fork out some money then we must be somewhere near the top of the list.
I missed Fridays game because of a pre arranged event but was texting someone at the game all the way through wishing I was there.
Sounded a belter.
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| Or maybe some people can't afford to pay the extra money on top of what they already pay.
With this I mean the season ticket holders who didn't show up.
Family of 4 would cost what? Minimum of £40?
Who are you to judge these people or call them.
And as mentioned we are hardly having a good season.
People are entitled to spend their own time and money on what they want without being called out by people on here. 50 years of thick and thin or not!
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| Quote ="FARTOWNFORLIFE"Or maybe some people can't afford to pay the extra money on top of what they already pay.
With this I mean the season ticket holders who didn't show up.
Family of 4 would cost what? Minimum of £40?
Who are you to judge these people or call them.
And as mentioned we are hardly having a good season.
People are entitled to spend their own time and money on what they want without being called out by people on here. 50 years of thick and thin or not!'"
I'm not judging or calling anyone just pointing out the facts.
To be honest I didn't expect 7,500 thought 6,000 would have been a good gate especially when it ain't on TV.
Good season or not a challenge cup tie with Leeds is an attractive game and
'Who am I to judge these people or call them' ?? I guess that's simple I'm someone that was there on the night and noticed the massive drop in Huddersfield fans and increase in Leeds fans whose season is worse than ours !! Comprende ??
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| but we are not talking about a one off game that's not what the poster asked. l know lots who say they carn,t afford, its usually the ones with the newest cars,phones, gadgets, takeaways,fag in one hand , pint in the other, bragging about their latest cruise. ok its their cash to do as they want, but please don,t then tell me you are a Giants supporter, but carn,t afford to go, l call them GUNNERS, they were gunner go, BUT!!
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| what a load of rubbish!
Talk about self righteous. Neither of you two are in a position to judge how much of a fan somebody is. I know people who are real fans but don't go anymore as they have been made redundant and putting food on the table is struggle enough. Are they not true fans?
As I said. Folk work hard for their money and are entitled to spend that money and that free time on whatever they want. If they want a week off the rugby then that's their choice and don't need their loyalty challenged by people on here.
Too many mercenaries on here. Huddersfield RLFC may be your life but don't push your beliefs onto others.
And for the record, I very rarely miss a game in any competition, home or away. I have been watching the club for 30 years and had the odd season away for various reasons.
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| Quote ="FARTOWNFORLIFE"what a load of rubbish!
Talk about self righteous. Neither of you two are in a position to judge how much of a fan somebody is. I know people who are real fans but don't go anymore as they have been made redundant and putting food on the table is struggle enough. Are they not true fans?
As I said. Folk work hard for their money and are entitled to spend that money and that free time on whatever they want. If they want a week off the rugby then that's their choice and don't need their loyalty challenged by people on here.
Too many mercenaries on here. Huddersfield RLFC may be your life but don't push your beliefs onto others.
And for the record, I very rarely miss a game in any competition, home or away. I have been watching the club for 30 years and had the odd season away for various reasons.'"
Interesting response however Huddersfield RLFC ain't my life I'm just a long term supporter 20 years + more than you and it's my choice to go whenever I want to as it is to anyone and everyone.
Mercenaries mmm well I'm not a Professional soldier hired to serve in a Foreign Army or someone working only for money or another reward.
I think I'm a Rugby League supporter certainly not self righteous which defines as complacent, smug, superior or a hypocrite.
A degree in English Language can be quite useful.
In fact Fartown for life if you knew the definitions of the words you used I find it quite insulting or quite cowardly as your post comes across as someone saying what they think so why hide behind words that most people don't know the meaning of.
If you read my original post I asked a question as simple as that, it is after all a forum for debate about Rugby League and associated matters. Crowd numbers is just one of them.
Of course some people can't make it at times I can't get to Catalans due to an appointment tomorrow but you chose in your post to generalise as if I was personally attacking each supporter when I was pointing out a massive drop in support and asked a simple question nothing more nothing less.
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| Refer to your second post.
You claim you were having a go at the 2500 season ticket holders who couldn't be bothered. You're words! So yes you was personally attacking those people.
You don't know why they didn't go.
I can google words or get a dictionary out to try and look superior to another but you tend to find that people who call people's use of English or poor grammar are those that might be trying to get themselves out of a hole.
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| Has it ever occurred to any one , The majority of people in Huddersfield just don't rate Rugby league, or at least not enough to go and watch it, That's just how it is,
I wouldn't go watch Town if they paid me to go, or any other soccer team either', does that mean Huddersfield don't deserve a soccer team because they don't get 5,000 more fans , I have talked to Town fans " one of my mates being one of them " He never stops talking about them, I just think what a sad life you lead mate if that's all you have to talk about and spend your hard earned on.
The point is It's his hard earned to spend on what he wants. and the sad facts are that the vast majority of Huddersfield people choose to spend theirs on something other than Fartown They go Fishing, Biking , Golfing whatever.
There is this unbelievable opinion about that people need to offer up some sort of credible excuse for not going to a match, The only excuse they need is " I didn't want to go " what that has to do with anyone else I have no idea, they aren't stopping anyone else going.
Regards Huddersfield people being tight, I'm told that the Town has the highest number of Golf club members per head of population in West Yorkshire, I don't know if that's true I don't play myself, but I should think it will be more costly than watching League, and that's just golf, as far as I know there has been some sort of explosion in Biking as well, Bottom line, People do what they want, not what other people want them to do.
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| Quote ="FARTOWNFORLIFE"Refer to your second post.
You claim you were having a go at the 2500 season ticket holders who couldn't be bothered. You're words! So yes you was personally attacking those people.
You don't know why they didn't go.
I can google words or get a dictionary out to try and look superior to another but you tend to find that people who call people's use of English or poor grammar are those that might be trying to get themselves out of a hole.'"
What hole is this ??
'I was personally attacking those 2,500 people' not one of whom I can name or know, just recognise which seats were empty. Get real if I was going to personally attack someone I would do it right and at least understand what I was saying or use the correct vocabulary for it to be clear what I meant.
If you'd have said I had personally attacked Paul Anderson or some of the players after some of the shocking performances this season yeah I can see that but I go back to my original point I was there to see them.
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| do salford, wakefield and widnes deserve one?
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| Quote ="brearley84"do salford, wakefield and widnes deserve one?'"
Beat me to it.
Only teams who can achieve 10k attendances deserve a SL team.
A nice 5 team SL ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="boomer"The Giants have some very loyal supporters and ertainly deserve a SL team, but the question was do Huddersfield, and the answer to that is NO. l go to the gam and back by bus an foot, and its always groundhog day. "are the giants playing today", no lm in fancy dress., " l was going to go but " out comes the book of excuses.
Same on the way home, "how did they get on", l usually ignore them.
lf we get to Wembley there will be 20000 plus all professing to be lifelong supporters.
l have said it before. the general public of Huddersfield are some of the most tight fisted miserable folk l have ever met
and they deserve what they get'"
when I used to watch fartown, if somebody asked me how we had got on , I didn't ignore them, I just said" if you cared that much, you should have gone"..
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| Quote ="adelaide-giant.no9"when I used to watch fartown, if somebody asked me how we had got on , I didn't ignore them, I just said" if you cared that much, you should have gone"..'"
Ignoring someone or being rude is surely counter productive to attracting new fans, lapsed fans, or those with a passing interest to the next game? People throughout the game call for clubs and the RFL to be better at marketing, there are regular threads on here and on other forums including mine (wire) and VT...it's generally someone else's fault someone else's responsibility.
My twopenneth, try answering the "how did we get on" question with a bit of positive spin..."it was a great game terrific try by Ormsby, or a close defeat but Brierley is looking good and we're on the up", you just never know and it seems less hard work than staring glumly out of the bus window.
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| Maybe people don't go to the games because they don't want to converse with people that argue with every opinion or statement that differs from theirs.
We as fans are letting ourselves down, we share the same passion and interest, but we let that come between us and there actually seems some hostility on this board.
Can we get back to talking rugby and get some positivity back into our club?
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| The hudds contingent in Catalan looked healthy....
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Beat me to it.
Only teams who can achieve 10k attendances deserve a SL team.
A nice 5 team SL
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This is the quandary facing RL and how we structure it in Europe
Hull, Leeds, Wire, Saints, Wigan and Catalans sit in first class
Cas, HKR, have extra Legroom
Hudds, Wakey, Widnes and Salford sneak in with the baggage
Bradford was in the First Class section and could be there again with a sugar daddy, but we have Fax, Leigh, London, Oldham who could replace the Cargo dwellers and have similar gates within a few years.
Lets accept what we are and expand through competition, a properly funded two tens structure with p&r is where we are heading, and I expect to see Canada and Toulouse in it when it happens
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| Quote ="jools"The hudds contingent in Catalan looked healthy....'"
Usually is Jools, shame we can't take followings like that to Hull or Wigan etc though.
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