Didn't go and couldn't listen to much of the commentary however the first half that I did get to listen to I heard that the Hudds final try had at least one forward pass and possibly two plus a knock on that may or may not have been a knock down from Eden??

This is from commentators sat along the side of the pitch and not from behind like the majority of the Rovers supporters.

Just as an up side to the officials, Rovers got absolutely spanked last week against Leeds in the second half but I don't believe one person blamed the referee and I do not remember one point in the match that the official was called a 'self pleaser'.

Rich Silverwood does blow hot and cold at times but I do believe he is one of the better officials. I wouldn't be surprised to see a big money deal for him to go down to the NRL much like Ashley Klein did a while ago and he wasn't half the standard that Silverwood has become.

I think most people remember Huddersfield as the ones who brought the wrestle in the tackle to the UK with Nathan Brown. We see now at Saints they are a very niggly team and are horrible to play against. Huddersfield have maybe mellowed out a tad but their old reputation still proceeds them.

Anderson's outbursts need to be controlled a little IMO (of which I'm sure he doesn't care what my opinion is!), yes he was unhappy, yes the tactics we used may well have been unsportsmanlike but that is something he should take up with the RFL and not the media.

I should imagine this game will make sure the return contest in a few months time will be quite tasty and possibly draw a few extra Giants fans over to the KC Lightstream Stadium!

It has been in the rules for years. If an attacking player breaks free and has an opportunity to get a quick PTB away then the defending player MUST release him. This is to stop defending players holding the attacker down so to allow the defence time to get back on side. It is an immediate sin-bin offence.

When holding down normally, there is already a line of defence and this is not seen as being a professional foul and so a penalty is given. If this happens too often then a team warning should be issued.

Sometimes when things "annoy the hell out of me" I look up the rules of the game and accept that my interpretation may in fact be wrong and the man with the whistle does at least know some of the rules!

I have to admit that Bentham was correct with his decision to sin-bin Wardle. It was a professional foul which allowed our defenders to get back in position. If he hadn't, HKR's play the ball would possibly have resulted in a try for them. The other examples quoted were not professional fouls [in the letter of the law and were quite rightly awarded only penalties.

However, most other decisions and non-decisions by Mr B left me totally exasperated. I even had to answer "I don't know" when fairly newcomers asked me "What was that for?".

Thanks to Little Ivor, I am slowly starting to learn how to view refereeing decisions objectively, but Mr B's performance yesterday was one of the worst I have ever seen.

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Suspect you mean Phil Bentham, not Richard Silverwood. [Or does it mean you didn't listen to the radio at all!!





we missed shaun lunt big time, with him and brough we are a totally different team.

what are the stats when benthams refs our games?? he prob reffed most the wire losses too!

when all is said and done, we didnt lose the game, it was a draw.... and we keep getting told the league doesnt matter its all about the play offs

one good thing is that the players will get a kick up the back side for next fridays game at widnes which i think is going to be a real tough test.

especially if we are without lunt and possibly ferres now too

Quite possibly, it was a big effort from your lads off the back of us switching off, I would hope that theres no way that kind of comeback will be possible against us again this season though, you may well have done us a favour early doors.

I'm a Hull FC fan, so obviously have no great love for Rovers. But let me ask the Giants fans one question. Have you never had a game where the referee gave everything in your favour?

No I meant Rich Silverwood. As I was talking about our game last week against Leeds when we lost yet we didn't hear criticism about the officials.

Probably, and i'm fairly certain the fans of the opposition were, like us, angry, annoyed, ranting etc when it happened to them too so not sure what your point is ?
Every set of fans have a moan about a Ref when he has been shockingly bad !!

Thaler used to give us everything and it was embaressing and now he gives us jack ? I dont want no favours from a ref I want consistent impartial straight down the middle reffing. If theres some biff all good and well as long as both teams are reffed the same way. Yesterday was an absolute joke where the officials were leaning that far towards Hull KR they nearly fell over. They are paid well to do a job, time they started to do that job regardless of teams involved. I pay my money to watch good Rugby League and I am feeling a little short changed at the moment. I guarentee that Rovers will play exactly the same next week against Cas and probably end up with 12 men on the park, thats not right cos if it was ok Sunday it should be ok every week but for EVERY TEAM, every week regardless of teams, regardless of refs regardless of wether its on sky or not. If Catalan had come and played like that at Saints they would have ended up with 11 men and that is where the problem lies.

i dont think anyone is blaming the referee for us not winning the game yesterday, as i have stated previously, we did that ourselves, we allowed rovers a way back into the game when really they should have been put to the sword, and i have given rovers credit for that.
the issue most of us have with bentham is that he refereed the same game differently for the teams, like flyingprop said, all we want is straight up no leaning officialdom, i dont want a ref to be "on our side" i want him to be unbiased, and neutral and referee the game EQUALLY for both the teams, if we get penalised 20 times for our team's misdeameanours, then fine, as long as he penalises the other team in the same way.
i am loathe to bash refs as most of the time they get stuff right, but yesterday mr bentham and his mates did not referee both sides equally.
whether that had a bearing on the result i dont think it did, but as daz said, his handling of the game could have had some influence on our players' attitude and tactics.

Apologies.

putting teams to the sword and clocking off in games was a problem last season... hopefully yesterday highlighted this area again and we can learn very early in the season!

when things aren't going your way its easy to jump on the ref. im always questioning why teams seem to hold Rovers players down longer than we do, why do other teams always seem to get away with being offside more than Rovers do and so on. certain games seem that way and it's usually when your either playing badly or getting tonked.

I think this is the crux of the matter. We had enough to beat both KR and the ref but we let his decisions (right or wrong) affect our game.

I've seen enough ref bashing on these forums to last several lifetimes and where has it got us? Absolutely nowhere.

You will always get refs having crap games just like players have crap games just like coaches have crap games - it's how you handle it DURING a game that sorts the winners from the losers. Luckily this time we weren't losers just 'drawers'. It's happened early in the season - let's hope we have learnt from it.

So the penalty count was 11-6 in your favour and Rovers got all the decisions? Think some of you need to take off the blinkered spectacles.