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| Quote: jools "Why is this a ridiculous way of doing things? We hold all the cards. He can't leave without us allowing him to-we hold his registration and another club can't take it on without us releasing him. If he leaves it too late we don't have to sell him on -he is still contracted. Have you thought perhaps Huby finds it difficult due to the environment he finds himself in having bad connotations and he may actually want to move on ....to be able to move on!'"
Based on the fact that if he does not move on we are left holding a player the club have no faith in ( otherwise why tell him he can go). If he does not go quickly we will find it difficult to get someone in to replace him. Then we are left with an unhappy player. That could leave us with two unhappy props.
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| For the average fan like me who has no inside knowledge of the club or know any players it's difficult to work out where the truth is in any of these rumours, so I work on a mix of what I see on the field and take a view of the running of the club from how things progress. I would hope that a coach puts forward players he wants / doesn't want and that if Huby can go then that is down to RS.
I hope to see a fit well organised team playing a decent type of rugby and a team that is together.
I do hope things change internally as it appears to me we are stagnating and as much as the playing staff needs refreshing it may well benefit to freshen the management of the club and brings new ideas.
Ken Davy talked of getting back to challenging the top, let's hope it starts next season.
Adam Walker has been mentioned here and I also like Maurice Blair at HKR
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| It was Anderson who signed Huby who was playing well for Cas, but who decided on 3 year deal.? Was it Agent or Player power to get that length of deal? I don't think Anderson or Stone are involved in this detail on contracts. Now the Player is out of favour the length of contract is irrelevant is it? Contracts can be broken by the Club but not the Players. Rugby League is still stuck in a sixties time wrap and does not respect employees rites. Thewlis should accept responsibility for contract negotiations with Agents at Giants.
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| Quote: simonsays "It was Anderson who signed Huby who was playing well for Cas, but who decided on 3 year deal.? Was it Agent or Player power to get that length of deal? I don't think Anderson or Stone are involved in this detail on contracts. Now the Player is out of favour the length of contract is irrelevant is it? Contracts can be broken by the Club but not the Players. Rugby League is still stuck in a sixties time wrap and does not respect employees rites. Thewlis should accept responsibility for contract negotiations with Agents at Giants.'"
If we had offered a year and missed out on signing an on form player wanted by others then folk would still be moaning. Players want stability for their families. Can't blame them for that.
Coaches want stable teams can't blame them for that either. The issue is how to prevent stagnation. If it's done by offering pay per play or per win then it makes it difficult to judge salary against cap.
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| Quote: simonsays "It was Anderson who signed Huby who was playing well for Cas, but who decided on 3 year deal.? Was it Agent or Player power to get that length of deal? I don't think Anderson or Stone are involved in this detail on contracts. Now the Player is out of favour the length of contract is irrelevant is it? Contracts can be broken by the Club but not the Players. Rugby League is still stuck in a sixties time wrap and does not respect employees rites. Thewlis should accept responsibility for contract negotiations with Agents at Giants.'"
In league Express it said half wat through a 4 year deal
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| Joshy Mantellato is well known to Rick Stone.
Stone plucked him out of park football and coached him through to firstgrade at the Newcastle Knights.
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| Quote: Durham Giant "In league Express it said half wat through a 4 year deal'"
4 year contract. and 2 more left on his deal !!! Now that is stability , bet his Agent is smiling. Why give old Players long contracts and try and get young ones like Jake Connor on the Cheap. Does Ken never look at how deals are done at his Club.????
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| Huby hasn't had the best season, can you blame him? And who in the club has
He is a quality prop and I am willing to bet will be a cornerstone of our pack next season
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| Quote: brearley84 "huby available then if anyone wants to take on his big wage
stone wants to reshape the squad and my god does it need it !
huby came to the giants on the verge of an england call up but no where near that now
in stone we trust!'"
If I had a £1 for every time I had seen you write " In Anderson we trust " I would be getting a season ticket free.
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| Quote: simonsays "Trouble with you Brearley is that you believe everything that the Clubs PR feed you. You should say "in Thewlis we trust" Stone will be like Anderson a yes man .'"
made my thoughts clear on thewlis abit back.
stone seems to be rustling a few feathers at the moment it seems regarding the squad, we shall see. he saved our sl place so deserves some backing from the fans on decisions
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| Quote: roopy "Joshy Mantellato is well known to Rick Stone.
Stone plucked him out of park football and coached him through to firstgrade at the Newcastle Knights.'"
nah, he cant kick goals for toffee!
we are ok in the wing departments with mcgillvary and murphy, ormsby
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| Quote: Jo Jumbuck "If I had a £1 for every time I had seen you write " In Anderson we trust " I would be getting a season ticket free.'"
got that wrong.
i gave anderson time at the start of the season due to what had been going on with injuries etc but patience wore thin with the defeats and no sign of a turnaround. his time was up for me when we got knocked out of the cup at home to wakey.
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| Quote: simonsays "4 year contract. and 2 more left on his deal !!! Now that is stability , bet his Agent is smiling. Why give old Players long contracts and try and get young ones like Jake Connor on the Cheap. Does Ken never look at how deals are done at his Club.????'"
huby was on the verge of an england call up when we signed him and i was happy we got him! hasnt pushed on, due injuries mainly and the ferres saga but we didnt have a crystal ball back then.
get all players on a 1 year deal, be no slacking from anyone then, but it doesnt work like that
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| Quote: brearley84 "huby was on the verge of an england call up when we signed him and i was happy we got him! hasnt pushed on, due injuries mainly and the ferres saga but we didnt have a crystal ball back then.
get all players on a 1 year deal, be no slacking from anyone then, but it doesnt work like that'"
Huby was a top offloading forward at Cas, That ceased as soon as he played for us, Doesn't take a lot of working out, same thing happened to Crabtree as soon as N Brown left. If R Stone doesn't make some changes to that style of play there will be fewer fans again next season, including me, Lawrence is another forward that could be so much better than just a head down and plow in man, just needs coaching.
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| We (Cas) were only willing to offer him a two year deal when he left due to the fact we knew of his underlying injury problems.
Seems we were right (for once).
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