So what needs to be done to stop 2017 being a repeat of the 2016 nightmare? - This should be interesting

Guess at two replies in next 2 weeks

Get ourselves a decent conditioner/fitness coach. Keep our fingers crossed that Stone is the guy to put it all right.
With Grixy going to Wakefield and Woody leaving maybe the 2 guys from Newcastle are the replacements but know nothing about them.
With Connor going to Hull are we gonna let Sam Watt have a go there or bring another outside back in?
I would love to see Hinchy going to 13.
But anyway that's all in the future, let's just enjoy the moment and watch the MPG next week completely chilled out.

Simple.. Regardless of the squad we make sure they are fit and dedicated to the giants cause.

Stone has already got us on good attacking structures easy better than last 5 seasons,that is no exaggeration.

but it will always be tough for us coming up against the rugby league towns.

I'd like to see Ellis and Murphy move on along with Crabtree, Wood, Grix, Johnson, Ormsby, Wardle and Simpson. We need a full back and new centre and wing combo, hooker, half and a prop in order to gain top 4 we need a big clear pit and some shrewd signings. I may be tempted to let Brough go to Leigh if rumours are true as well.

Tom Burgess - looking for new club
George Griffin - Been good in a poor Salford side
Niall Evalds - Great potential
Morgan Escare
Eloi Pelissier
Zac Hardaker

All players I would look at given the right price

What about Gene Ormsby,was that a panic buy?

For next year, starting 17 without chucking names around for places I have assumed vacated:

1. *New attacking full back
2. Jerry
3. Leroy
4. Wardle?
5. Murphy
6. Brough
7. Brierley
8. Rapira
9. *New, quality, proper hooker
10. A fit and conditioned Huby
11. Symonds
12. Ukuma
13. Hinchcliffe

14. K Wood
15. Ikahihifo
16. Mason
17. Roberts

Bus driver: Ellis (lucky to get that job)
And the obvious omission at 8 is also deliberate, time is up I'm afraid,and a season or 2 overdue.

That team on paper, although not hugely different from this year, when fit and properly conditioned to super league level, should be a match for ANY team. This season was doomed from the minute our team turned up for week 1 massively out of shape and resembling more of a Sunday league pub football team.

Take some time, write out the 17s of this years top 4 and you will struggle to find a team that has much on them. Depth would also need to be addressed with a couple of decent back ups.

Full back is a huge call if we are serious for trophies.

Brough needs to stick around, firstly and most importantly to bring Brierley on to fulfil his huge potential. We should be building our team around this kid, let the size and strength come with the right pre-season and guidance. Danny's knowledge and experience will be key to his development....and secondly to keep the door firmly shut, bolted and chained to stop that sorry excuse for I'm not sure what Ellis from EVER getting back into our team.

Burgess - not sure either way to be honest.
Griffin - don't see the fit
Evalds - worth a punt, as you say, definite potential
Escare - no thanks, flash in the pan, good half season 2 years ago
Pellisier - hot head and penalty machine, but possible back up to main hooker
Hardaker - never gonna happen!!

Pellisier just from memory is better than that Leeds hooker last week who was supposed to be top class.

Evalds a Siddaler we let slip.

Escare forget it.

Hardaker,no,no and thrice no.Good enough for Leeds once upon a time but not good enough for HGRLFC. Just the brutal truth.

Evalds would be the perfect replacement for Jake Connor. Blistering speed too. 23 can play fullback, wing or half. Lives in Huddersfield as well.

If we are talking salford players, I've always like the look of junior Sau...

Depends who goes

We need a fullback of attacking ability - while Hardacre fits the bill he's also a liability I think but maybe if he comes cheap, might have had some humility knocked into him down under

Escare is quality in attack but strangely out of favour at the Dragons, but then they do things oddly there

Other than am aussie unknown then a promotion from academy maybe


As for hooker...Leeming is quality and will get better, he just needs game time. Ellis maybe? It is his natural position but his passing is awful at times

Pelisier- maybe but not as well as Leeming. Quality hookers are in short supply

Ormsby has impressed at times, maybe a preseason will turn him into the player he can be but then we need a new centre unless Wardle stays

My main thing is we need new props, I'm not sure Eorl is quite done yet personally but we need a new front row forward, though maybe Dan Smith will make a come back

id like to just enjoy the moment of yesterday still for a while longer yet!

but yes for 2017 we need changes, or at least to learn the lessons from 2016

we need to have a squad of players!!!!!!!!!! we went into this season far too light so bringing in the bradford 3 will help on that score

sort the full back situation (maybe mamo?)

sort a hooker (maybe randell?)

sort centre (maybe gaskell)

some mongrel forward/s to bring back the biff we lack

in rick stone we trust, he knows the issues i feel so look forward to seeing what the off season brings!