Leigh fan: Thanks for turning up all you fans great effort. It'll be a different game at your place but look forward to a good away game.

Pretty much feels like it

One of the other problems is we have got way too many average players in the team and probably 2 props short. You can use 'solid' as much as you like to describe the likes of Clough etc but solid doesn't win you games.

Clough, Wakeman, Hinchliffe, Smith and now Murphy are all average players and I think would not get in any top 8 superleague side.

Added to that we have a work in progress in Alex Mellor with no superleague preseason having to play every week in a tough position.

Ryan Brierley been wasted with the way we play.

An ever aging Danny Brough who teams have now worked out and know how to play as we have no plan B.

Really need to get Mamo back soon so Gaskell can go into the halves but at this point McIntosh would be better at FB and Gaskell go in the halves for next week at Wigan because if we line up how we did this week we will get trounced 50 points plus.

Wigan have Burgess, Bateman, Manfredi, Tomkins, Gildart, McIlorum, Sutton and Tierney out but will it affect them???? NO they will still beat which ever team we put out.

Ryan is devastating when chiming into the line as like an extra FB, he is definitely not comfortable with the one out type RL style & fits best in a more off the cuff style team.

The lad copped a lot of stick from the North Stand last night & was visibly upset by it, while he did bring it upon himself he will have learnt from his mistakes & now needs to be cut a little slack.

In applauding the North Stand he will have gone some way to building bridges.

Off to send R.B an encouraging tweet.

How, i've said i like Ryan a lot, i want him to do well but they way we are playing is not suited to his game, that's a dig at the coaching team and tactics not the player !!

Exactly my point, we saw what he was capable of in the middle 8's last year doing just that.

gaskell to the halves when mamo is fit is a good call

or even swap brierley and gaskell now! brierley to full back but think we have tried that route and mcintosh can do that job well too

just not working at the moment
maybe brough is the problem

I think it is Brough that is one of the problems through no fault of his own as he does give 100%

I feel teams can play us with ease now as we have no plan B and EVERYTHING goes through Broughy more often than not. Hes been the main man for a long time now and like it or not will start to decline and have fewer good games - he cant go on forever. Id like us to start planning without Broughy for next season and give him a coaching role. Unless we end up in the Championship which I then feel he would rip most teams apart week on week at that level even at 36.

I think there are moves afoot to get rid of this 3x8 business going on what i read up and down, So it may be that we will finish up with the wooden spoon and be saved again, as we have been in the past for one reason or another.

I was thinking at one point last season that a drop into the championship may well have been good for the club, It could possibly be the only way to sort the club out, It would depend of course on KD staying on board. His continued involvement now amazes me to be honest, but Hey Ho.

But is that because that's how brough wants it? Ellis seems to be doing a great job for KR- ok in the lower league but still... seems to me Ellis played his best last season early on when brough was injured. Brierley isn't being used effectively. And I still wonder whether Anderson was right and that in SL because of his style of game he would make a better FB than a half.

That is an idea that may have merit Brierley is doing nothing where he is, why not give him an extended run at Fullback, If we find his defense a bit weak and we concede points, So what, we are doing that anyway, we would at least have a chance to utilize his strengths, He is the fastest man in the side, I don't care where you play him, but if you play him at all, at least give him a chance to use his pace.