Ferguson is not the answer but if he, Gaskell or Clough were to come I'd give them my full backing and support as they must have something about them and all would start with a clean slate which everyone must do as if not they're on a hiding to nothing.

Thewlis saying we are still nearly up to the cap even with eorl retired. If that is the case we are definitely up the creek. With 5 players leaving so far surely that can't be right ?

where has he stated that??

now that crabtree has retired do we have the pack for 2017?

i see it being these 4

huby
rapira
ikahihifo
smith

with mason as cover and also taai can fill in at prop if needed...

we need forwards that can get on top in a game for our back to play..

is ours good enough??

Yes

It is all about coaching Brearley, Stone can't play for them, but he can get them playing the right sort of Rugby and believing in themselves. Our props are as big and as fit as any " give or take " The rest is attitude, desire, commitment, none of which was much in evidence last season. We are starting from the bottom, a chance to get it right.

I'd prefer 'Derek' to be an off loading second row, and a fill in prop , not a full time one tbh.

I think we are still one starting prop short.

2 to 1 in favour of going ahead with the props we have then!

i forgot to put clough in the mix too if he signs then i think our pack is fine.

hooker, centre , full back on the wish list

Team so far
1. Simpson
2. Jerry
3. Cudjoe
4. Wardle
5. Ormsby
6. Brough
7. Brierly
8. Rapier
9. Ellis
10. Huby
11. Symonds
12. Bruno
13. Hinchy

14. Sebastian
15. Taai
16. Smith
17. Leeming

With plenty who might make that 17 not named

If we have no fullback I am sure Murphy will play there before Simpson. Would also find a place in the 17 for Roberts.

Exactly, we can already put a squad out that we KNOW is top 4 quality
No need to panic