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Do you think anything will change? Lots of talk about SL1 and SL2 and leaving the rest to fend for themselves.

How could you select which club should be in which division? Possibly a return to licensing would resolve that, setting some criteria appropriate for each division.

That set criteria could mean some current SL Clubs being replaced by Championship Clubs. Or Championship Clubs not being allowed promotion as they don’t meet the criteria of the division above them. Something we have seen before.

If the structure is to change, I don’t see any other way than using licensing again for selection purposes. Although I also don’t see SL chairmen voting against their own clubs interest.

So what will happen? If anything.

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Quote: atomic "Do you think anything will change? Lots of talk about SL1 and SL2 and leaving the rest to fend for themselves.

How could you select which club should be in which division? Possibly a return to licensing would resolve that, setting some criteria appropriate for each division.

That set criteria could mean some current SL Clubs being replaced by Championship Clubs. Or Championship Clubs not being allowed promotion as they don’t meet the criteria of the division above them. Something we have seen before.

If the structure is to change, I don’t see any other way than using licensing again for selection purposes. Although I also don’t see SL chairmen voting against their own clubs interest.

So what will happen? If anything.'"


It has been nearly a year since It was first suggested by Roger Draper, for him to go public it must have been spoken about for 6 mths prior to that, I honestly do not think a decision has yet been reached, tgat may be in-fighting by the SL bosses - dont forget Wigan or Hull or Saints vote carries no more weight than Widnes or Salford or Hull KR in this one club one vote system, it could be Sky who don't want change at the moment, it could be the RFL concerned for clubs below SL level, I do not think we will see any change till 2021 at least when the new TV contract kicks in, WHATEVER FORM THAT TAKES, who knows it may be substantially less than we have at present?

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Quote: Harry Stottle "It has been nearly a year since It was first suggested by Roger Draper, for him to go public it must have been spoken about for 6 mths prior to that, I honestly do not think a decision has yet been reached, tgat may be in-fighting by the SL bosses - dont forget Wigan or Hull or Saints vote carries no more weight than Widnes or Salford or Hull KR in this one club one vote system, it could be Sky who don't want change at the moment, it could be the RFL concerned for clubs below SL level, I do not think we will see any change till 2021 at least when the new TV contract kicks in, WHATEVER FORM THAT TAKES, who knows it may be substantially less than we have at present?'"


Harry, Sky don't have control of structures. They have control over what games they show and the amount of games they show. Its not up to them if things are to change. By the way, they owe a game back already.

Indeed, one club one vote, with most outcomes 7-5 in favour of the top five. The TV money could be more substantial, as there would be less clubs to support.

Not seeing changes until 2021,wont stop the negotiations now in progress.

You don't mention licensing, other than nothing will change until 2021. Will that time frame ensure existing SL Clubs not meeting that criteria now, are being given the option to make it so, or suffer the consequences.

In other words, the clubs not meeting the criteria now have three years to put it right.

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Quote: atomic "Harry, Sky don't have control of structures. They have control over what games they show and the amount of games they show. Its not up to them if things are to change. By the way, they owe a game back already.

Indeed, one club one vote, with most outcomes 7-5 in favour of the top five. The TV money could be more substantial, as there would be less clubs to support.

Not seeing changes until 2021,wont stop the negotiations now in progress.

You don't mention licensing, other than nothing will change until 2021. Will that time frame ensure existing SL Clubs not meeting that criteria now, are being given the option to make it so, or suffer the consequences.

In other words, the clubs not meeting the criteria now have three years to put it right.'"


Hi Atomic, firstly Sky have stated that they are in favour of the jeapordy aspect that is brought about with the Middle 8's and if they are insistent on the format maintaing it isn't that tantamount to saying we are staying with the 3 x 8's structure, has you state negotiations could be ongoing in fact they could have already commenced re the next TV deal, whichever way we view it SKY untill any other broadcast company come along with any where near or better than the present deal SKY still hold all the ACES. On that scenario if no other broadcaster comes forward I dont expect an increased offer forthcoming!
Secondly, you say in any voting situation the majority vote would favour what the top 5 desire, those 5 I imagine would be Wigan, Saints, Warrington, Leeds and Hull, whilst I think those clubs could decide collectivley they would like to move in any number of different directions or formats, perhaps they may not suit the other clubs, by the way does Catalan who I keep hearing are guests in SL actually have a vote?
Thirdly, No I do not mention licensing, it may well come about, then again it may not get the required votes, If it does come back it will be as a "closed shop" I for one hope that never ever sees the light of day again, even if Leigh was to be one of the chosen few I would still be against it, the Championship is becoming a wonderful competitive competition could you really see that would have happened if the top division was locked out, not a chance. If it did return to licensing and we were outside of SL with no way of getting back in I would stop going, after over 50 years of supporting Leigh and I would expect I would not be on my own, and that would not only apply to Leigh it would reverse all the the good work that has gone on in the Championship in the last 3 years, otger clubs supporters i believe would follow suut.
You may well be correct again, in that working alongside my no-change till 2021 it gives those clubs who do not meet whatever criteria that has to be met for SL entry the opportunities to get up to speed, that is one scenario which would have had to have been voted on and agreed by the majority of clubs.

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I 've heard 2 of 10 sl divisions. As of licencing.with a 3rd tier feeder system from what is now league 1 but with mergers. And Leneghan and co running the operation. But last bit could be wrong

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