I have never been so disinterested in Rugby League in all my life. 50 years of watching this great game and I couldn't care less about it anymore. I will be at the Leigh v Fax game but it doesn't matter if we win or lose because you can't get promoted. I haven't watched a game since we got stuffed at Batley and I really haven't missed it. I couldn't care less who wins the CC or any GF. I hate SL (womens football or darts or Rugby League???) and SKY. I just see a dying game and a bunch of bent management running the game. Any good talent will go to Oz or Union because this game is dead due to franchising and expansionism

SL: London v Salford Att:1500 CH1: Workington v Barrow Att: 1700 I rest my case. RIP Rugby League. Crying shame what the buffoons have done to our once great game.

It's so sad because it was a brilliant sport. The game is so divided now. Do you think any team in the Championship in financial difficulties would be helped like Bratfort Northern have been? It's so corrupt and so divided and there is nothing to play for anymore. Every game is just a friendly. Let's face it Northampton and Gloucester amateur RL teams have more chance of being promoted than Leigh, Fax or Fev. Unless drastic changes in the people and the mindset of the people running this game are changed it will be dead in most of the heartlands in the next 5 years. There's so much more to do in summer that you don't miss it when you stop watching it and in winter most people watch football anyway.

Us yourself an fax have no chance of SL the big wigs would'nt allow it.Also on your gloucester and northampton comment why do you think the RFL have allowed them to join our leagues? Its because thats what they have in mind in the near future.

Well said........my thoughts exactly.

Absolutely spot on,remember years ago the excitement would be building,now its should I go and whats the point

I spent years as a Leigh season ticket holder and never missed a game home and away. I honestly couldn't care less anymore. I have been to 1 game this season, Sheffield away and I only went to that because I live in Sheffield AND got free tickets. I don't watch on TV anymore. I cancelled my Sky Sports last year.
The "sport" is a joke and is on the verge of extinction.

I go because I enjoy the game ,you can't beat a live game of rugby and I still get satisfaction from a Leigh win regardless of the fact that we are going nowhere but do agree that our great sport is being killed off

I have been this year to the fewest games in a season for over twenty years. I got asked today what day is the next game played? Once you get out of the habit it is going to be hard to change. THe game needs P&R otherwise its just a series of frendlies.

I agree that the Game is in a perilous situation - despite the RFL spin on increased attendances and extra TV viewers, in SL. The same RFL people would also probably admit there are only a (small) handful of clubs, who are surviving, financially.

There seems to be a mood of change developing within the Game - hopefully to a return to P&R and helping the 'traditional' clubs to formulate a way to survive off their own efforts.

My take is that I'd rather be in there helping, in however small a way, my club to survive, build and then flourish.

It needn't be all doom and gloom.

On 19th August 2007 we had P&R, and strangely we had just over a 1000 on.
Did those missing hundreds have another reason for not going? Because the trend of this thread is we would have delayed KO's if we went back to the system that had the bumper crowds week in week out. Or if we didn't volunteer to be "feeder club" with Salford - we don't have to take DC players, but we choose to do so like most of the other clubs otherwise we are weaker against the other clubs and fans would then not turn up for excuse #99.
All clubs together should refuse DC's, but they won't because sadly each club looks out for themselves

When they first announced dual reg players, I said it was a slippery slope to becoming a feeder club and although we have got to watch some good players, especially from Warrington, I would much rather have not had this system introduced in the first place.
Here we are just a few years later and the day 6 dual reg players turn out for a national league team is the day they officially become a feeder club.

Do you genuinely think the RFL don't think the game is struggling behind closed doors?

So they come up with the idea of scrapping the U20s to save the SL clubs money. I height SLEEP clubs were supposed to be developing the next generation of players because thats what licensing was supposed to allow.

Unless i hear more encouraging things about our pathetic laughing stock of a game 2012 is my last season.

I actually think P&r does bring in the support -
In 1992 Leigh played in a 8 team competition (devised by Gary Hetherington - then of Sheffield Eagles).
We had Oldham / Leigh / Sheffield / Workington / Rochdale / Ryedale-York / Carlisle / London Crusaders so not much scope for big derby fixtures.

For me it worked as when we played Rochdale Hornets on 05th April 92 (so a month or so to go before the season ended - a month that would see gates rise as 1st past the post was the winner of the comp - as it should be now) we had these averages posted in the programme in a 8 team league.........
Oldham 3,123 (3rd in the league)
Leigh 3,015 (1st in the league)
Sheffield 2,389 (2nd in the league)
Workington 2,083 (7th in the league)
Ryedale-York 1,214 (8th in the league)
Carlisle 845 (6th in the league)
London 669 (4th in the league).

If we remember that this was in a period of it being rare to find many full time players/coaches and certainly the full time club representives at best would be a secretary (compared to the on field and off field teams in employment at each SL club and a fair few championship clubs now) one does wonder what happened that made all these clubs become so unnattractive to the people in the towns and cities they came from.

Personally I'd bring back Promotion and Relegation starting next season and scrap the play offs , I've no problem with a end of season cup competiton (as that whats the play offs really are in RL) so lets have a premeiership trophy day as before as it didn't detract from the vital week to week RL being played.
We need fans to feel like every single game matters - I'm not sure many fans in all divisions feel thats the case and for a sport thats still a minority one I'm not sure it carry on alienating those that turn up week in week out.