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Looking at the England team for this weekend. In terms of players of international quality this is the worst team selected to represent England or Great Britain in my lifetime. I am over 50 years old.

The game is progresing ?????????? - what a laugh.

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Sadly true. Who out of that team would make the Oz team, Burgess?

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Well be fair it was hardly our strongest side.

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Start with the coach

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Quote: Tipster Ste "Start with the coach'"

completely agree what did he do for the bulls eusa_wall.gif

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Does anyone really seriously believe we have the players to match the Aussies regardless of who is the coach?

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Start with picking the best players, how can anyone justify Huddersfield having more players than Wigan or Warrington who won the trophies. How can Martin Gleeson not get in a 25 man squad? How can Luke Robinson play scrum half for his country when he wouldnt get in any of the top 8 sides (including his own team Huddersfield) at scrum half?

Theres plenty more mysterious decisions from our head coach, need I go on???

If we are going to lose to them lets start with picking players who are in form in their positions and maybe even get a neutral ref, then and only then can I really accept being beaten

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Not me. We are getting closer though it is not that many seasons ago they regularly used to thrash us. We are closing the gap however slowly imo.

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Quote: Tipster Ste " How can Martin Gleeson not get in a 25 man squad?

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Very poor example.

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if PNG had all their NRL players, we would probably lose, but lucky for them, i mean us, England should win.

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Quote: Bradleigh "if PNG had all their NRL players, we would probably lose, but lucky for them, i mean us, England should win.'"

I take it that all of those PNG players you mention are playing SOO or have requested to.

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A couple of my thoughts here: bit.ly/d5Ds0T
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Quote: Bartholemew Smythe "I take it that all of those PNG players you mention are playing SOO or have requested to.'"


I don't know, I was just meaning, it must have weakened them. They have Hunslet's hooker playing for them after all ! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Bradleigh "I don't know, I was just meaning, it must have weakened them. They have Hunslet's hooker playing for them after all !
Wabo? (sp?) I actually reckon he's pretty good at CC/CC1 level. At international level Roby and Lunt should destroy him though icon_lol.gif

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Back to my original post - in my view the Australians are also now a long way down from their team of the 80's and 90's. In those days they did thrash us regularly but our team did contain what i would world class players - Edwards, Hanley, Offiah, Woods, Drummond, Gregory, Gregory, Platt, Davies, Goodway, Farrell + others.

In this full time pro era it seems that a players ability to do well in the gym, become strong and fast, has taken away from the development of skills in other areas.

Oh for a forward with the ball skills of Derek Pyke or Eddie Bowman, a side step like Tommy Grainey or Bev Risman, an eye for a gap like John Woods. To be a little more contentious and referring to more recent times i would say that Neil Turley had more basic rugby ability than most of our current crop of so called internationals.

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