Quote ="Cokey"Yah it would prop. Looks like a nasty piece of work this fella. Read the next to last paragraph in this link. upthecream.co.uk/why-no-hull-fc- ... o-stay-up/'" Not reet Cokey..

Quote ="Cokey"Yah it would prop. Looks like a nasty piece of work this fella. Read the next to last paragraph in this link. upthecream.co.uk/why-no-hull-fc- ... o-stay-up/'" Not reet Cokey..

I've long had my doubts about the RFL, it's akin to what was the "old farts" RU had before it modernised itself and really took off as a sport.
These kind of Banana republic decisions just underline just how bad things are.

Short term as a club we use this as motivation for the 8's, we have a good enough squad so let's now start to play.
Long term there needs to be enough progressive owners to force change at the RFL as what we have is a not fit for purpose old boys network that needs ripping apart.

Jamie will have a long break and be ready to prove all his doubters wrong next season and start to erase the huge smear the RFL have put on him.
The 4 month "ban" is not worthy of comment as to do so would give those on the panel(s) credit and they are not worthy of that.

I know, ah well.

BTW - Can i trouble you to put on, an updated matrix layout of the middle 8s? Cheers.

You appeal if you have new evidence that prooves the original decision was incorrect. Every suspension we've had this season was correct. The only people who have been saying we need to appeal the decisions are those who have been using their cherry & white hearts rather than their rational heads!

The thing is though is that the appeal was against the length of ban,he pleaded guilty to the offence. He has now been punished the same as Ben Flower.

unbelievable

So would you keep him or not, given our position and future status?

No

Glad you posted Budge..

Just a thought, If this occurred on the last game of the 8s, Would they have given him 4 months then?



BTW - I would keep him.

Ive just seen the video and cant see what he's actually done wrong its a physical game , to me its no different than 2 players squaring up , its nit like there was intent to cause harm , bit careless yes but nothin I havent seen a thousand times.

Careless? It was pointless- he had no reason to go anywhere near bird for the purpose of playing the game of rugby league. Was he involved in the original tackle? Was he tackling a player with the ball? Was he attempting to get the ball? If you think this is ok based on the crap you've witnessed in the championship then perhaps you'd be better off going back there!
I hope you are playing devils advocate because you can't truly think this is an acceptable action for a professional RL player.

he migth have been expecting Bird to return to his feet so he could square up to show his disaproval , Bird stayed down then Acton put him back down , its not as though he did a Ben Flower , I couldnt actually beleive he got banned at all , see simila every other week.

Bird could have been laid there with a neck injury, so for Acton to do what he did wasn't just pointless, it was utter stupid

He could have spontaneously exploded too , Acton could have done a Ben Flowers and you could say the same thing when any player pics an opposing player up after a tackle , hes been done for a late challenge , it wasnt really a challenge.

Why did leigh appeal

Would Jamie having not played for 3 months be fit ?

He'd be coming back into the last 1/2 games , both most probably highly charged pressure games , is that a good idea with him trying to make amends for getting banned ? , he'd be trying too hard and that could be counter productive

So not much to lose

Using this thought process as a premise for not appealing appears somewhat flawed IMHO.

Looking at 'criminal law' cases where a for example a person or persons have been wrongly imprisoned & using this reasoning that a sentence would be "almost guaranteed the sentence would be increased", why would any innocent person ever appeal ?

I am not suggesting Jamie is innocent, more that the original & subsequent increased punishment does not fit the crime !

I also ask, how independent is this panel, who pays their salaries & how much 'influence' over them might the RFL have ?

This is something I would like to see put before CAS (Court of Arbitration for Sport) but it won't happen.

Seems to me the sport has a cancer & it needs cutting out !

he should move to the nrl,they still play rugby down under.we will be playing in hi-vis soon.i personally would not pay one penny of any fine.

I agree with Ste100 centurions. We need more transparency about the choice of these independent panels. Is it just co incidence that one member was an ex Hull KR player and the other an ex chairman of the same club? Haven't these two members of the panel a vested interest in the case?

I don't know about a vested interested, if you think about it,, it's a big bonus for Leigh if Acton isn't playing, he is a total liability and could get sent off for some of the things he does, at least if you play someone who plays hard but fair, he may play the full duration hahah

You say you're smart enough to support Leigh but you might as be supporting Wigan with an attitude like that. The 'bit careless' is extremely comical.

And I really doubt that you would see anything like it in last nights game

Trust me Barry Lilley would do us no favours, no love lost there over the years.

Well he's not done Leigh any either, has he? The $h!t house.

Unbelievable some of the stuff written on here !!!!

This sport does not need people who think this kind of behaviour is ok !!!!

Some of you lot need to take a long hard look at what your saying, the decent guys on here who understand what the problem is are probably cringing and hiding in embarrassment at you !!

The severity of this Ban is outrageous, I just wish with hindsight that Jamie had bent down and told Bird, get up you Coward so I can knock you down again


Anyone who believes Bird was other than playing Dead is deluded, I watched it back again last night and I have never seen a Concussed/Unconscious player looking so well leave a field!!
Cant wait to see the Cats game in the 8s, I don't think he'll be hitting Hock late.

Message for Bird, Bu@@er off back to the NRL and take your antics with you!

Message for Jamie, you are letting your Passion distract you, I'm sorry our Legal team have been defeated on your behalf because, no matter what anyone says your 'crimes' do not fit your punishments! Use your rest to help your teammates and consider, how you can improve your on field behaviour because IMO you are the best young Prop in Britain!