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I like most of you have supported this great club through thick and thin times and there have been a lot of low moments in there. When back to full good health I will continue to do so with pride. However , now the club should be thriving to go all the way to the top, but with the current coach I just can't see this happening. Third year in charge and in all reality. Not a lot with him has change apart from getting, on paper what should be a top team. Bjut if he is unable to motivate and lead that team. It may as well be a poor team with no expectations from anyone. I dont like to see anyone lose their job, but, Jukes is clearly out of his depth here and should step down. If he does stay. If he does suddenly start to weave some kind of spell.then yes, he'll get my backing, but in all honesty, if he does stay , then I can only see us struggle when the big games come round.

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Quote: scrum "Are there bigger changes coming? Michael John Norris resigned as a director of Sporting Club Leigh Ltd on the 24/01/1918 [Companies House]. He owned at least 25% of the shares no new director is yet listed. I have not seen any statement from the club on this issue, can anyone throw any light on this?'"
Mike Norris hasn't been listed on the Website as a Director for a while now. Whatever happened, happened at the end of the season.

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Quote: gunners guns13 "They've had a full pre season so if they're 80%away from what the coaches want I'd be asking serious questions,our game plan in that simple full time professional players should be able to pick it up in a couple of weeks especially when some of the spine was here last year'"


I didn't want Jukes when Rowley left. But many on here said give him 10 games and the rest is history. I don't think we can afford 10 games this time given the opposition in Championship. But there's no way he'll walk after one match. So we are stuck with him and let's crack on.

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Trouble is one goes to two then three etc so Derek MUST step in now set a target for the games. All percentages taken into cosideration coming up. If Jukes fails miserably bin him off immediately before its too late but fanbase will suffer with the current set up no doubt about it. If Derek. Which I'm sure he does wants the best for this club. Then he has to act sooner rather than later

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Quote: atomic "KC only knows one way of coaching and thats structural. No free reign. Sunday was niether, it was just a bunch of individuals just doing whatever they wanted to do. So who evers coaching that needs to make way.'"


Do you know what you are on about, KC was key to the most expansive free flowing Saints side in history, i really do think you post for a reaction

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Quote: EVO105 "Do you know what you are on about, KC was key to the most expansive free flowing Saints side in history, i really do think you post for a reaction'"


KC lost his job because of the style he played. If it was expansive free flowing rugby he'd still be there. You have your reaction,try matching it.

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Quote: atomic "KC lost his job because of the style he played. If it was expansive free flowing rugby he'd still be there. You have your reaction,try matching it.'"


He knows different game management systems / play but chooses this method, i dont aagree but to suggest he knows nothing else is wrong

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Quote: Snowy "Reynolds is just not good enough, plain and simple.

I dont know what hold he has, but he should be nowhere near the team.

Even the interception he threw to Key was 2 yards forward !!

Anyway, revenge next time ? I thought Toronto was pretty average to be fair and nothing special. Us on the other hand just gave up thinking we was going to cake walk it ! Got what we deserved !

It will be interesting to see how we respond.'"


I have to agree with you on Reynolds. I have always said I don't rate him, certainly he will never be the playmaking halfback we need to return to SL!
Mortimer has got to go to Halfback and partner Hutchison, its plainly obvious to all that this is our best combination! Mortimer is not as physical as Hood and Hood is playing very well so cant be left out for me!
Baptiste will add some go forward and speed down the middle so that should improve the speed of our play the ball!
To be quite honest, our Right Edge is appalling much like it was the whole of last season! The lack of understanding/ability between Crookes and Dawson is embarrassing considering the amount of times they have played together! Obviously Evans will replace one of them, probably Crookes as we need more speed and flair in the Centre!
Our Pack also looked dwarfed by the 'Exiles' at times and, that worries me too! Cory looked like he'd played for 'them' for years which just underlined what a good player he is ! (big loss for me)
Of course its early days however, the manner and size of the defeat should sound alarm bells to our coaching staff! If doesn't then, we are in big trouble!!

P.S. you are correct Reynolds pass, which Kay intercepted was indeed forward too!

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Another major failing on Sunday was our goal line kicking! Failing? it was none existent !! irrespective of what the Coaches had told the players to do, once our players saw the banal and futile plays we offered they, should have taken it upon themselves to introduce the kicks and, if they didn't spot the deficiency in our play then we really are, in trouble!

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Quote: kirkhall "I have to agree with you on Reynolds. I have always said I don't rate him, certainly he will never be the playmaking halfback we need to return to SL!
Mortimer has got to go to Halfback and partner Hutchison, its plainly obvious to all that this is our best combination! Mortimer is not as physical as Hood and Hood is playing very well so cant be left out for me!
Baptiste will add some go forward and speed down the middle so that should improve the speed of our play the ball!
To be quite honest, our Right Edge is appalling much like it was the whole of last season! The lack of understanding/ability between Crookes and Dawson is embarrassing considering the amount of times they have played together! Obviously Evans will replace one of them, probably Crookes as we need more speed and flair in the Centre!
Our Pack also looked dwarfed by the 'Exiles' at times and, that worries me too! Cory looked like he'd played for 'them' for years which just underlined what a good player he is ! (big loss for me)
Of course its early days however, the manner and size of the defeat should sound alarm bells to our coaching staff! If doesn't then, we are in big trouble!!

P.S. you are correct Reynolds pass, which Kay intercepted was indeed forward too!'"


Totally agree. Reynolds is fit and willing but doesn’t have the quick thinking needed at halfback. He would make a fine full back and that would release Hall to centre. Would like to see Hall taking penalties too - we are making woeful yardage with touch finding.

Only 2 games to get it right before Fev show up.

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Quote: scrum "Are there bigger changes coming? Michael John Norris resigned as a director of Sporting Club Leigh Ltd on the 24/01/1918 [Companies House]. He owned at least 25% of the shares no new director is yet listed. I have not seen any statement from the club on this issue, can anyone throw any light on this?'"


Michael and I both got involved at the same time, and went school together at Twelves then Thornleigh but it was well after 1918 despite what folk say. Anybody will tell you that running your business and being hands on at the club is at best a challenge - Michaels business takes him to London for the foreseeable future, you will find him most matchdays with his Dad n lads in the west stand - he got his dates wrong and ended up in Ibiza last weekend which turned out to be a masterstroke imo.
So another non story from Mr Scrum again.

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Quote: JackDiggle "Totally agree. Reynolds is fit and willing but doesn’t have the quick thinking needed at halfback. He would make a fine full back and that would release Hall to centre. Would like to see Hall taking penalties too - we are making woeful yardage with touch finding.

Only 2 games to get it right before Fev show up.'"


What do we know Jack? we're only spectators however, there seems to be a groundswell of opinion supporting our observations!

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Quote: EVO105 "He knows different game management systems / play but chooses this method, i dont aagree but to suggest he knows nothing else is wrong'"


If he knows different management systems other than structural then we should see that employed v Batley. I'm not questioning his experience, but if they go down the lines of Sundays system again,we'll be taking another beating.

So lots to be proven at present, both on/off field. Let's see what unfolds and hopefully I eat my words.

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Quote: gunners guns13 "They've had a full pre season so if they're 80%away from what the coaches want I'd be asking serious questions,our game plan in that simple full time professional players should be able to pick it up in a couple of weeks especially when some of the spine was here last year'"



totally agree

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Quote: kirkhall "I have to agree with you on Reynolds. I have always said I don't rate him, certainly he will never be the playmaking halfback we need to return to SL!
Mortimer has got to go to Halfback and partner Hutchison, its plainly obvious to all that this is our best combination! Mortimer is not as physical as Hood and Hood is playing very well so cant be left out for me!
Baptiste will add some go forward and speed down the middle so that should improve the speed of our play the ball!
To be quite honest, our Right Edge is appalling much like it was the whole of last season! The lack of understanding/ability between Crookes and Dawson is embarrassing considering the amount of times they have played together! Obviously Evans will replace one of them, probably Crookes as we need more speed and flair in the Centre!
Our Pack also looked dwarfed by the 'Exiles' at times and, that worries me too! Cory looked like he'd played for 'them' for years which just underlined what a good player he is ! (big loss for me)
Of course its early days however, the manner and size of the defeat should sound alarm bells to our coaching staff! If doesn't then, we are in big trouble!!

P.S. you are correct Reynolds pass, which Kay intercepted was indeed forward too!'"


Doubtful if Liam would have reached it had it not been so far forward! He seemed quite surprised when it arrived at him.

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