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| if you have a u18s you need a full scholarship to keep the player development/numbers to see you through each year, widnes have done their scholarship correctly over the past X amount of years, they then started their u18s ( who are going great guns this year ) & they have progressed into the top candidate for a super league franchise this year.
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| How do you know who your ten scholars are when they don't need to have signed until sept 1st?! Or will they be from last years team? In which case you had like 20ish lads in both age groups
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| Quote ="j.c"so we are losing the scholarship because we dont have a under 18s ?'"
...and we are not allowed to run an U18s either if my info is correct, so no fault of our own
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| Quote ="DemonUK"...and we are not allowed to run an U18s either if my info is correct, so no fault of our own'"
this is what id like to know demon.
if its our fault'then why?.
if its the rfl'then why?.
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| it is noboddys fault,
1st if we had a u18s we would be allowed to run a full a scholarship
2nd the money you have to put into a scholarship is unbeleivable, plus the LISA money used to fund this, ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif) which now goes to the club towards players,
3rd the rfl have told championship clubs they can only have 10players at each age group at scholarship to save money for both club & rfl,
SO DOWN TO IT ALL ITS ABOUT MONEY FOR BOTH CLUB & RFL
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| alright,fault was the wrong word to use.
what it boils down to is,we cant afford to run a u18s and a scholership,so the rfl have said..because you cant afford to run a u18s we are not going to allow you to run a scholarship 'is that it' ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Been told by someone who was once something to do with the 18s that Leigh are not allowed to run an 18s due to something that happened .
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| Quote ="itsatry!"Been told by someone who was once something to do with the 18s that Leigh are not allowed to run an 18s due to something that happened .'"
i thought we were getting to the bottom of this conundrum and then you go and throw this in..mi eds stating to bang again now ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="j.c"i thought we were getting to the bottom of this conundrum and then you go and throw this in..mi eds stating to bang again now
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It was something to do with money
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| ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif) we are allowed to run a u18s if we could afford one,
but like i said money is an issue, LISA money used to fund the scholarship, that now goes
towards players like Robbie Paul & other players, there are certain rules to running a scholarship, to many to quote on here, but here are a few,
1, each scholar has to be kitted out with full training gear, (roughly 60pounds per player )
2, each training session has to be at a decent training facility approved by the rfl & paid for by the club, you can't just go onto some field & train/coach.
3, you have to have 1 qaulified coach per 5players, each coach does it for nothing/don't get paid, i have been coaching at Leigh Centurions for 6years now. & so on & so on. ![WALL eusa_wall.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_wall.gif)
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| Thanks for all the info lobby & pies, at least i understand it a bit more now. ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="j.c"i thought we were getting to the bottom of this conundrum and then you go and throw this in..mi eds stating to bang again now
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Well if you look a few posts before i told you that as well
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Well if you look a few posts before i told you that as well'"
what you wrote was...if my info is correct,im sorry demon but that could mean anything.
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| No thats my way of protecting myself....and yes i do believe it is to do with misdemeanours from a few years ago ie not recent. They don't half hold a grudge that RFL lol. Have also posted same several times in the past. Not my fault if people chose not to listen/read.
[size=50shhhhh but as long as I post relevant posts I get closer to Gold Member status!!![/size
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| Quote ="DemonUK"No thats my way of protecting myself....and yes i do believe it is to do with misdemeanours from a few years ago ie not recent. They don't half hold a grudge that RFL lol. Have also posted same several times in the past. Not my fault if people chose not to listen/read.
[size=50shhhhh but as long as I post relevant posts I get closer to Gold Member status!!![/size'"
Thats what i was told ,misdemeanours and that we couldn't run an 18s again
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| Really? We are talking about the this season and last
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| YES we are & have been allowed to run a u18s, we have never been stopped from running a u18s whilst ive been coachingat the club, the club just choose not to ![DEPRESSED icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//a054.gif)
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| Interesting maybe a word from a director to confirm or deny this would be good. Especially considering where I got my information.
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| My information only last year was that we had been refused permission to run an 18's, I will clarify and report back.
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| If my memory serves me correctly we actually had an u18's coach in position in 2006/07 in Carl Briscoe but had to 'let him go' because the RFL refused us permission to have an u18's.
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| I for one would not be impressed if the truth of the matter is that Leigh actually cannot afford to run either an u-18's or scholarship program (albeit because of the reasonable sounding rules out in place by the RFL) when it has been portrayed by senior people at the club that we "weren't allowed". I would like a definitive club statement on the issue.
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| I just e-mailed BBC forum regarding this and this is what my e-mail said:
Quote Regarding super league licenses. It is essential for a club to run a scholarship/youth scheme to be eligible for super league. So why is the RFL only allowing widnes to run such a scheme? This is practically saying only widnes can join super league.
Franchising is bad for the sport, we have quality stadia at Leigh and widnes however why are Wakefield and castleford still playing in inadequate grounds.
Franchising is slowly going to ruin rugby league if the franchising system continues the lower leagues will slowly die, they aren't being allowed to run scholarships by the RFL so aren't producing any home grown talent which is what rugby in England needs.'"
Only the first paragraph was read out and put to the RFL. John Ledger from the RFL replied with the response
Quote A majority of the teams can run a 16's 18's and 20's in the Championship'"
Lies, pure lies live on TV
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| You won't get one until its all sorted which my information is that is far from the case.
As for the e mail Its obviously John Ledger has not spoken to Barry John Mather or Dave Rotherham.
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