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Quote: Alan "Oddly enough, something similar happened in our previous game against Featherstone. Andy Kain was waiting to come on, while Nanyn was kicking at goal. I guess Kain was standing about a foot inside the touchline. Suddenly Robert Hicks yellow carded him and allowed Fev to retain 13 men. It wasn't clear why Hicks crded him, but if itwas for encroaching, it was petty. However, Fev had a sub yellow carded, but were allowed to retain a full team. Granted the sub hadn't actually created a try, but still similar circumstances.'"


eusa_think.gif If he was on the field then they had 14 men on, perhaps we should appeal and ask for a re-match? icon_smile.gif

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Quote: glow "eusa_think.gif If he was on the field then they had 14 men on, perhaps we should appeal and ask for a re-match?
Ah but the interchange official hadn't fumbled the card! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: haven4ever "what do you mean allegations, i dont know the law but i know what happened, for point 2 to happen then point one must be correct or why would duffy be red carded??

take your red and white specs off fred and admit if it happened against leigh you expect your club to do the same and appeal'"



Look up the word ALLEGATIONS it actually has nothing to do with the law, which part of geds rant do you want me to refute? I will answer to the RFL thank you very much not to you, I am not wearing red and white specs at all and can only see what my camera recorded which is in the hands (well will be in the morning) of the RFL, straw clutching by haven at least mischief at worst, a petty incident blown up out of all proportion by a man clinging onto a job, absolutely pathetic, and you lot have swallowed it hook line and sinker.

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Fred, have you looked at the incident where the Leigh water carrier got sent off? Was it a stoppage or not? We could be looking at getting into trouble for that also...

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Best thing is; Replay the game with our strongest team out, have the RFL in attendence and, take the bl@@dy Bonus point off them good style! icon_thumb.gif

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Outcome will be [hopefully] the officials will have to be retrained as it seems they did not do there job,can't see any other outcome or teams will be wanting replays for forward passes next

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Quote: haven4ever "i dont think the issue of 13 or 14 men on the pitch is the main issue here.

i think the 2 main issues are that

1. it appears duffy entered the field of play illegally(throwing his number on the floor instead of handing it to the 4th offical) and then provided the pass for robbies try .What the rule on this is i don't know the RFL may say he was an illegal player so the try should never have stood or they may say it was a technical error and fine the player.

2. the most contentious how can a player be red carded then allowed to be replaced by a sub again i don't know the rule but im told as the substitution was not completed correctly then it has to be reversed regardless of any cards

what ever happens i think most decent RL fans would admit if their team was on the receiving end of this shambles they would expect their club to appeal even if just to find out how it happened and what the rules are.

all this seem to have detracted from what was a very tough game in very tough conditions and both teams should be pleased with their efforts'"


No, I wouldn't expect my team to ask for a replay because a sub dropped his card on the floor as he replaced a player. In fact I would be embarrassed if they did.

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But who says he dropped it, maybe the 4th official dropped it. Have you seen the video of the incident yet?

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fred you need to read my post again .When i said i didnt know the law ,i meant the rfl rules on these type of incidents not the law about allegations
i made no allegations simply said that 13 or 14 men was not the issue
the facts are duffy was sent off for illegally entering the field of play and that was in the MC report
As you even say in your own report duffy was involved in robbies try so he influnced how the game went while on the field illegally they are facts
We are simply using our right of appeal not clutching at straws.If your honest if the circumstances were reversed leigh would do exactley the same.
For what its worth i dont think anything other than a fine for the player will come of this.Seen as all the other subs for haven and leigh went without a hitch then this one is either duffys fault or the 4th officals and i can't see the rfl blaming themselves.
i for one dont want a replay,if some one had offered me a BP AT 2.55Pm on sunday i would have grab their had off

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Alan wrote:Oddly enough, something similar happened in our previous game against Featherstone. Andy Kain was waiting to come on, while Nanyn was kicking at goal. I guess Kain was standing about a foot inside the touchline. Suddenly Robert Hicks yellow carded him and allowed Fev to retain 13 men. It wasn't clear why Hicks crded him, but if itwas for encroaching, it was petty. However, Fev had a sub yellow carded, but were allowed to retain a full team. Granted the sub hadn't actually created a try, but still similar circumstances.


If he was on the field then they had 14 men on, perhaps we should appeal and ask for a re-match?

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Maybe it just felt like you were playing 14 but it was evened up by the ref icon_wink.gif lol

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Quote: Leyther_till_death "Fred, have you looked at the incident where the Leigh water carrier got sent off? Was it a stoppage or not? We could be looking at getting into trouble for that also...'"

TBH no ive not ive been too busy with the other 'incident' I'll try and have a lookm at it but at the time i thought we had three on I may be wrong, and we had been warned, thought TBH in those conditions it was rather pedantic of the officials NOT to allow more water on for thats all that Ruddi was doing as PR was doing the messages

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Spoke to duffs lastnight, when I was on my Level 3 Course (cos we are proffesional and fully trained stewards, are you reading whitehaven?), and he (duffs), said it has been sorted, but didn't elaborate any further.

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I doubt it has Dave as the compliance officer at RFL has only recieved my DVD's about half an hour ago

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www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/bo ... legations/

Match Review panel sits today apparently, hopefully Freds video evidence of the incidents will exonerate us
www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/bo ... legations/

Match Review panel sits today apparently, hopefully Freds video evidence of the incidents will exonerate us


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