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Andy,
If you are going to have a deal on Season Tickets, can we have a definitive statement on what days our games will be played on. I know the televisied ones are out of our hands, but can we now get precedence over Swinton and commit to having all outr non-televised hoe games on a Sunday afternoon. This more than the cost would persuade me to buy a ST.

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Quote: advocatus diaboli "Andy,
If you are going to have a deal on Season Tickets, can we have a definitive statement on what days our games will be played on. I know the televisied ones are out of our hands, but can we now get precedence over Swinton and commit to having all outr non-televised hoe games on a Sunday afternoon. This more than the cost would persuade me to buy a ST.'"

......and if we reverted back to Friday night games, me and 5 others would get season tickets again. You can't please everyone.

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All fine and dandy lad,but the previous board all but destroyed the club with the previous link up with warrington and seeing who smith would let us play that week coupled with no promotion ripped the interest out of the crowd.

Then trev's awful attempt of explaining how it was great for us to be able to play these wigan lads and we were the idiots for not supporting it was the final nail.

People have voted with there feet and fingers judging by the lack of interest on here at times.

Fully understand you need to balance the books and are toying with the idea of staying twinned for next season,but fans like me will not attend until its ripped up,can't make it anymore clearer than that.

Our party use to number 9 and now 2 go depending on who the game is against

Rip up the deal on duels and you get us 9 back next season

Good luck in the final

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Well its pretty clear the BOD / BOM will stop the dual reg farce if we get fans backing the club.
Now I'm no fan of DR and still don't see a need for it (if it means we are the 8th best team then so be it - I'll take 8th as a independent over 2nd as a dual reg'd club) BUT lets be totally honest here....

Our club needs support to stand still, yes the DR is a farce and a insult to many HOWEVER it was done and dusted before the new mob came in and by staying away its losing the club money - Wigan must love it as already on these boards we see a occasional 'Wigan love in' so if we go bust they'll gain a couple of hundred fans and a few generations of fans after that - is that what we want, is that what guys disgusted with the DR want - I'd imagine all fans would sing from the same hymn sheet if that was to happen but by staying away you are increasing the likelihood, we are down to a pathetic gate of circa 1,500 - we could play at a amateur RL ground on those gates - so lets stop messing around.

Whilst we can all argue about it and argue that PR would want to keep it (I've said before he's 6 games from the sack in a results industry - of course he'd want to keep all options open, he's not a idiot) but I firmly believe if the club somehow started to get decent support then this would be binned as the guys running the club know long term its harming the clubs chances of players and existence.
I'd argue 95% of current fans who still go don't want to see Wigan players (or anyone elses) getting match practise to get in the big clubs team but we are doing it tough right now so have no option.

I still believe a helluva lot of work needs to be done by the current BOD / BOM and am still critical that the actions are slow (in fact hardly much difference in real terms that the previous owners) but I'm also more confident than ever that these guys and girls will turn it around - lets give em a chance and at the same time back the lads, by staying away it harms the club and gives the advantage to Wigan - lets not do that.

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Quote: jesus-is-coming "All fine and dandy lad,but the previous board all but destroyed the club with the previous link up with warrington and seeing who smith would let us play that week coupled with no promotion ripped the interest out of the crowd.

Then trev's awful attempt of explaining how it was great for us to be able to play these wigan lads and we were the idiots for not supporting it was the final nail.

People have voted with there feet and fingers judging by the lack of interest on here at times.

Fully understand you need to balance the books and are toying with the idea of staying twinned for next season,but fans like me will not attend until its ripped up,can't make it anymore clearer than that.

Our party use to number 9 and now 2 go depending on who the game is against

Rip up the deal on duels and you get us 9 back next season

Good luck in the final'"





Thanks

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Quote: JENKY "Well its pretty clear the BOD / BOM will stop the dual reg farce if we get fans backing the club.
Now I'm no fan of DR and still don't see a need for it (if it means we are the 8th best team then so be it - I'll take 8th as a independent over 2nd as a dual reg'd club) BUT lets be totally honest here....

Our club needs support to stand still, yes the DR is a farce and a insult to many HOWEVER it was done and dusted before the new mob came in and by staying away its losing the club money - Wigan must love it as already on these boards we see a occasional 'Wigan love in' so if we go bust they'll gain a couple of hundred fans and a few generations of fans after that - is that what we want, is that what guys disgusted with the DR want - I'd imagine all fans would sing from the same hymn sheet if that was to happen but by staying away you are increasing the likelihood, we are down to a pathetic gate of circa 1,500 - we could play at a amateur RL ground on those gates - so lets stop messing around.

Whilst we can all argue about it and argue that PR would want to keep it (I've said before he's 6 games from the sack in a results industry - of course he'd want to keep all options open, he's not a idiot) but I firmly believe if the club somehow started to get decent support then this would be binned as the guys running the club know long term its harming the clubs chances of players and existence.
I'd argue 95% of current fans who still go don't want to see Wigan players (or anyone elses) getting match practise to get in the big clubs team but we are doing it tough right now so have no option.

I still believe a helluva lot of work needs to be done by the current BOD / BOM and am still critical that the actions are slow (in fact hardly much difference in real terms that the previous owners) but I'm also more confident than ever that these guys and girls will turn it around - lets give em a chance and at the same time back the lads, by staying away it harms the club and gives the advantage to Wigan - lets not do that.'"


Hi Jenky
Thank you for your post, please remember the majority of an iceberg cannot be seen and its this that allows it to float
The yet to be finalised changes in the games structure make the next few years vital to our future, it is our intention to seize the initiative and sell our vision to fans old and new, the take up of which will ultimately dictate our future success
A lot has been going on behind the scenes these past few weeks and the work put in by all but especially John and Michael has been unbelievable considering what they also do as a day job, thanks guys
Our relationship with the LSV is brilliant, and this will create huge improvements going forward for the benefit of all
I see the process of create the platform, identify opportunities, create products to maximise the potential of those opportunities and sell the benefits to our current and prospective stakeholders, motivating them to be an active part of what will be an exciting journey
The platform is almost complete and I can't wait for the journey to begin but trust us to get the foundations right because we want something that lasts

Neil

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I'd much prefer no linkup however needs must and the club needs money to survive. So I choose to support the club and not try and bully those in charge. JIC says good luck in the final.......empty words in my opinion.

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So don't come because we play Tom Spencer; Do me a favour.

It costs our club a lot of gate money just to play at the LSV and we get nothing from bar or food sales.

Jesus is Coming 7 of you will be back if we are in Champ 1 ? Get real.

The way to get only contracted Leigh players every week is to support your club and if you won't be at the NRC Final a week Saturday you can't imo care about the club that much.

Do you want our club to play only contracted Leythers ? Well I think most of us who still go do too but unless we get decent home attendances how is that going to happen ?

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Quote: THECherry&Whites "......and if we reverted back to Friday night games, me and 5 others would get season tickets again. You can't please everyone.'"


Agreed. I can't make evening matches but that's my problem. At least though if it were announced that all our home games would be played on the same day and the same time, regardless of whther it is Friday evening, Sunday afternoon or Wednesday morning, everyone would know whether they could get there and whther it is worth buying aseason ticket.

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On that question of when, those who prefer Friday or Sunday, how do you feel about Saturday 7pm?
Keeps Sundays free for families, makes it easier for groups to arrange socially, no work/ school next day, poor SL game on the sat and none in mid summer to compete with, soccer fans could make it back in time, is it a good corporate time?

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Quote: Nostradamus's lad "On that question of when, those who prefer Friday or Sunday, how do you feel about Saturday 7pm?
Keeps Sundays free for families, makes it easier for groups to arrange socially, no work/ school next day, poor SL game on the sat and none in mid summer to compete with, soccer fans could make it back in time, is it a good corporate time?'"


The problem is everyone wants what’s best for themselves, me I like it as it is Sunday afternoon, that allows me to watch SL Friday evening, go to the football on Saturday afternoon, I could probably if I tried be back in time for a 7pm KO, but I usually take Mrs glow out Saturday night, I know I could take her with me but until ‘the experience’ is better she’ll not want to go.

But the BOM are running a business, so need to make some hard business decisions, and pick whatever they feel is best for the club overall, and which ever they choose stick with it, we may lose some , for work or other reasons but so long as the business prospers then the decisions the right one.

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Don't care when we play. If I can make it I will if I can't I won't. I may buy a season ticket I may not. Next season will probably subscribe to CTV, at the moment I have a lot of expense.

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Quote: Nostradamus's lad "On that question of when, those who prefer Friday or Sunday, how do you feel about Saturday 7pm?
Keeps Sundays free for families, makes it easier for groups to arrange socially, no work/ school next day, poor SL game on the sat and none in mid summer to compete with, soccer fans could make it back in time, is it a good corporate time?'"


I'd go for 5.30 on a Saturday. Plenty of time after for a night out or whatever. Remember a night out for us old uns usually starts around 8.00 and finishes at 10.30.

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Quote: DemonUK "I'd much prefer no linkup however needs must and the club needs money to survive. So I choose to support the club and not try and bully those in charge. JIC says good luck in the final.......empty words in my opinion.'"



Why empty words? I want them to win

Andy posted a heart felt
plea I gave a answer as to why I have given up

Seems a lot more have as well judged by ticket sales?

Don,t get me wrong the new board have great passion but they have to realise the previous damage done

Can,t see the problem in dropping the twining if as frank says they only play one lad,well either get him on a season loan or rip up the twinning if we don't need it? as we only play one lad

Once again good luck in the final as I will be working that day

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Quote: mr. chairman "Torn between the devil and the deep blue sea our BOM , they have come a long way and turned the club around in many ways , a long way to go as well till it comes to fruition . I think they should give the fans a date when the twinning will stop , say about 18 mths to give them time to stabalize the playing side of things'"



Keith

If 1400/1800 people agree to buy season tickets for next season and we can guarantee an average of around 2.2/2.5k minimum next season then I will personally rip up any DR/ Partnership agreement (if there actually is one) and do it on the town hall steps.

The BOM are willing to bankroll and manage the process to take us to SL the RFL and LSV believe in the calibre of our management team but we need fans to back us now simple as that mate.

Fact is the BOMs circa 100k per season investment will cover attendance shortfalls and not signings unless the people of Leigh back us.

Cheers
Andy

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