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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Is this 14 team SL idea from the end of this 2018 campaign ?'"
Yes, as the playoffs do'nt start till August, so would probably havecto be announced shortly.
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| Quote ="Mookachaka"I would go with a 15 team Super league, with teams having a bye to help recouperation.'"
Great if you have your recuperation in week one.
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| Quote ="Mookachaka"I would go with a 15 team Super league, with teams having a bye to help recouperation:
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Good idea just 1 problem:
29 games (including Magic Weekend)
14 teams get 2 weeks off
1 team gets 1 week off
But the basics are good
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| So as a Leigh fan you would select Widnes & Salford to be in the SL 15 over Leigh ?
Why ?
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| If this true it’s a way of getting Toronto and Toulouse in there that’s what the rfl have wanted all along its slowly dying a death the game
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| Quote ="Montyburns"If this true it’s a way of getting =#80BF00Toronto and Toulouse in there that’s what the rfl have wanted all along its slowly dying a death the game'"
It fulfills their 5 year plan.
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| Quote ="Montyburns"If this true it’s a way of getting Toronto and Toulouse in there that’s what the rfl have wanted all along its slowly dying a death the game'"
Toronto and Toulouse are the top two Championship clubs on merit, it’s nothing to do with the RFL.
The change of league structure is Saint Helens led, supported by most other Super League clubs, again nothing to do with the RFL anymore.
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| Not a chance. The SL clubs want more of the TV money, this would give them all a fair chunk less (and they are contractually obliged to accept the total they currently get until 2020). Many would be going pop!
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| Not a chance. The SL clubs want more of the TV money, this would give them all a fair chunk less (and they are contractually obliged to accept the total they currently get until 2020). Many would be going pop!
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| Quote ="reffy"Great if you have your recuperation in week one.'"
You are a numpty
You'd get 2 weeks of if you have a bye, just like the NRL a couple of years ago
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| Quote ="Zulu01"Good idea just 1 problem:
29 games (including Magic Weekend)
14 teams get 2 weeks off
1 team gets 1 week off
But the basics are good'"
Why 29 games? Just play a round of games at the Magic and don't add the additional game into the season. I've never understood why they add the additional game anyways.
What do you mean 14 teams with 2 weeks off and 1 team gets a week off? You don't understand what Im saying, every round of games a certain team gets the round off, hence giving them 2 weeks to rest.
1 vs 2
3 vs 4
5 vs 6
7 vs 8
9 vs 10
11 vs 12
13 vs 14
15 has a bye
Then the next week.....
2 vs 3
4 vs 5
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1 has a bye
So on and so forth....
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| Quote ="Mookachaka"Why 29 games? Just play a round of games at the Magic and don't add the additional game into the season. I've never understood why they add the additional game anyways.
What do you mean 14 teams with 2 weeks off and 1 team gets a week off? You don't understand what Im saying, every round of games a certain team gets the round off, hence giving them 2 weeks to rest.
1 vs 2
3 vs 4
5 vs 6
7 vs 8
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11 vs 12
13 vs 14
15 has a bye
Then the next week.....
2 vs 3
4 vs 5
6 vs 7
8 vs 9
10 vs 11
12 vs 13
14 vs 15
1 has a bye
So on and so forth....'"
Mooka don't get so defensive
I said I like the idea of 15 with a week off, I am with you on that.
The maths don't work out.
15 teams - 28 games
15 doesn't go into 28.
15 rounds everyone gets a "week off"
Then 13 rounds to go - 15 teams can't all have a week off (only 13)
Basically 1 team will not play every round
Hope you get what I mean
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| If you increase SL to 14 teams then IMO you just had more mediocrity to what has been a mediocre competition for a few seasons. What has been a real success has been the very competitive top half of the championship. I would go with the SL and SL2 idea with 10 teams in each. The immediate thought is that the SL chairmen/owners will be grumbling that there will not be enough games to generate the income they want, but they have been saying themselves that they want to improve the playing standards. Having the top ten teams would ensure a difficult game every week and by definition improve quality.
The second 10 will be made up of the 2 lowest finishing super league teams and the top 8 from the championship. The teams involved will be those who have real ambition to be in SL and they should all receive equal funding.
I would have the Magic weekend as a challenge cup weekend. The reduction in the number of games will provide time for international games or "War of the Roses" fixtures.
The prospect of high quality games in SL2 would provide an opportunity for TV/live streaming deals in its own right. It would also provide for a 2 up 2 down promotion without significantly harming the quality of the competition.
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| Quote ="Zulu01"Mooka don't get so defensive
I said I like the idea of 15 with a week off, I am with you on that.
The maths don't work out.
15 teams - 28 games
15 doesn't go into 28.
15 rounds everyone gets a "week off"
Then 13 rounds to go - 15 teams can't all have a week off (only 13)
Basically 1 team will not play every round
Hope you get what I mean'"
If theres 15 teams, then there is 14 teams that you play, 2 x 14 = 28 games.
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| Quote ="reffy"Give your head a shake and have another go. Then we will see who the numpty is.'"
If you have a bye, you get 2 weeks off not 1 like you previously said.
If you play a team on the 1st of August, then have bye on the 7th, your next game is on the 14th, which is 14 days off, which is 2 weeks.
Give your head a shake.
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| Who are what is going to cover another two SL teams funding wise? Disbanding L1 will gain a £1m but that still leaves £2.5m short. Where's that coming from, Championship?
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| Quote ="Mookachaka"If theres 15 teams, then there is 14 teams that you play, 2 x 14 = 28 games.'"
I will try and simplify it for you:
Round 1 - team A gets a week off
Round 2 - team B gets a week off
And so on
Round 14 - team N gets a week off
Round 15 - team O gets a week off
Round 1 to 15 all teams (A to O) have had 1 week off
(I am using the alphabet for the teams)
Right now onto
Round 16 - go back to the start - team A gets a week off
Round 17 - team B gets a week off
18 - C
19 - D
20 - E
21 - F
22 - G
23 - H
24 - I
25 - J
26 - K
27 - l
28 last round - team M gets a week off. That's it end of comp with 15 teams.
But wait teams N and O have only had 1 rest week (rounds 14 & 15)
Everyone else has had 2 rest weeks
Teams A to M have 2 rest weeks
Teams N & O have only had 1
Now do you get it?
(This was a pain typing on my I phone)
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| Quote ="Mookachaka"If you have a bye, you get 2 weeks off not 1 like you previously said.
If you play a team on the 1st of August, then have bye on the 7th, your next game is on the 14th, which is 14 days off, which is 2 weeks.
Give your head a shake.'"
If you are the team without a fixture in the first week, you don't get any recuperation, you just start a week later than everyone else.
You maths is faulty anyway, if you play on the 1st and miss a week, your next game is on the 15th.
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| Quote ="Zulu01"I will try and simplify it for you:
Round 1 - team A gets a week off
Round 2 - team B gets a week off
And so on
Round 14 - team N gets a week off
Round 15 - team O gets a week off
Round 1 to 15 all teams (A to O) have had 1 week off
(I am using the alphabet for the teams)
Right now onto
Round 16 - go back to the start - team A gets a week off
Round 17 - team B gets a week off
18 - C
19 - D
20 - E
21 - F
22 - G
23 - H
24 - I
25 - J
26 - K
27 - l
28 last round - team M gets a week off. That's it end of comp with 15 teams.
But wait teams N and O have only had 1 rest week (rounds 14 & 15)
Everyone else has had 2 rest weeks
Teams A to M have 2 rest weeks
Teams N & O have only had 1
Now do you get it?
(This was a pain typing on my I phone)'"
There won't be 14 teams in SL , unless they disband CH also . The next structure has to see SL1 and SL2 all running fulltime with 10 in each. That's the way forward.
Create whatever you want on that structure,because that's were it will end up. Hopefully sooner than later as 14 in SL will see more than just L1 being disbanded.
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| Quote ="atomic"There won't be 14 teams in SL , unless they disband CH also . The next structure has to see SL1 and SL2 all running fulltime with 10 in each. That's the way forward.
Create whatever you want on that structure,because that's were it will end up. Hopefully sooner than later as 14 in SL will see more than just L1 being disbanded.'"
What ever system they introduce then so be it, we have to adapt, I don't think for 1 minute that there will be a 15 team S.L.
I was merely explaining to mooka that it would be impossible to give every team (2) weeks rest in a season with 28 games.
The powers that be will do what they do and we as fans will adapt.
Yorkshire cup / Lancashire cup, BBC floodlit trophy, Regal / JPS trophy, Lancashire v Yorkshire all gone.
Countless rule changes, licensing/ franchises, French clubs and now a North American club.
But yet we are still here week in week out.
Probably missed something
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| Quote ="Zulu01"What ever system they introduce then so be it, we have to adapt, I don't think for 1 minute that there will be a 15 team S.L.
I was merely explaining to mooka that it would be impossible to give every team (2) weeks rest in a season with 28 games.
The powers that be will do what they do and we as fans will adapt.
Yorkshire cup / Lancashire cup, BBC floodlit trophy, Regal / JPS trophy, Lancashire v Yorkshire all gone.
Countless rule changes, licensing/ franchises, French clubs and now a North American club.
But yet we are still here week in week out.
Probably missed something'"
You missed nothing, its just some think these ventures of SL with 14 in it will run on Scotch mist. CH along with L1 have 3 years to either go with whats being offered or go alone. Their choice. I don't take into account someones thoughts written in the RL weekly rag as gospel.
Others should do the same, the debate should be about 14 in SL, yet the debate turns into what format should be run in SL using 14 teams which the sport can't cater for without funding from the lower tiers being taken back.
Thats the point, not whether we should have a bye. No club will survive without funding, but if your happy to go with 14 in SL for 3 years, there won't be many clubs or fans adapting to that scenario below SL.
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| Quote ="Zulu01"I will try and simplify it for you:
Round 1 - team A gets a week off
Round 2 - team B gets a week off
And so on
Round 14 - team N gets a week off
Round 15 - team O gets a week off
Round 1 to 15 all teams (A to O) have had 1 week off
(I am using the alphabet for the teams)
Right now onto
Round 16 - go back to the start - team A gets a week off
Round 17 - team B gets a week off
18 - C
19 - D
20 - E
21 - F
22 - G
23 - H
24 - I
25 - J
26 - K
27 - l
28 last round - team M gets a week off. That's it end of comp with 15 teams.
But wait teams N and O have only had 1 rest week (rounds 14 & 15)
Everyone else has had 2 rest weeks
Teams A to M have 2 rest weeks
Teams N & O have only had 1
Now do you get it?
(This was a pain typing on my I phone)'"
That is wrong, the season would not end on Week 28, it would finish in Week 30!!!!!!!
When you need a set of fixtures for 15 teams, you work them out for 16. Team 16 is the bye!!!!! A season is 30 weeks giving 28 games and 2 byes for each team
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| Quote ="reffy"That is wrong, the season would not end on Week 28, it would finish in Week 30!!!!!!!
When you need a set of fixtures for 15 teams, you work them out for 16. Team 16 is the bye!!!!! A season is 30 weeks giving 28 games and 2 byes for each team'"
Wow don't believe this!
In our league there are 12 so minus summer bash and super 8's, we play 22 matches.
You don't play yourself
15 teams, they will play 14 at home and 14 away - 28 games
Not 30
(See my working out) if you can show I am wrong, I will willingly bow down to your knowledge.
Anyway it ain't going to happen so it's not worth the hassle
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