Quote: Tyldesley NO1 Leyther "There is no evidence that ticketless fans caused the deaths that day. Not a bit. There are reams and reams of documents and evidence that the authorities, Sheffield Council, Sheffield Wednesday and the police are culpable for the deaths of 96 innocent people. Despite this, successive governments have failed to address the problems, and the families are left with no true thorough independent enquiry which apportioned responsibility and subsuqent action. Not a single lost job, not a single penny in lost wages. But plenty of compensation for traumatised police officers. Andy Burnham is a member of a government that has shown no interest in the issue until with the 20 year anniversary and public pressure they suddenly decided to act Not a surprise to see Mancs popping up on here to have digs at Liverpool www.southyorks.police.uk/foi/pub ... icinterest If you also read page three of the document you'll find that the police officers were due to recive compenstion claim against the chief constable but after reveiw the of the House of Lords found in favour of the chief constables and no compensation was paid. Yet £23m has been paid out in claims from fans that day with two reciveing over £1m the rest shared between 1500 other claims.

Quote: Tyldesley NO1 Leyther "There is no evidence that ticketless fans caused the deaths that day. Not a bit. There are reams and reams of documents and evidence that the authorities, Sheffield Council, Sheffield Wednesday and the police are culpable for the deaths of 96 innocent people. Despite this, successive governments have failed to address the problems, and the families are left with no true thorough independent enquiry which apportioned responsibility and subsuqent action. Not a single lost job, not a single penny in lost wages. But plenty of compensation for traumatised police officers. Andy Burnham is a member of a government that has shown no interest in the issue until with the 20 year anniversary and public pressure they suddenly decided to act Not a surprise to see Mancs popping up on here to have digs at Liverpool www.southyorks.police.uk/foi/pub ... icinterest If you also read page three of the document you'll find that the police officers were due to recive compenstion claim against the chief constable but after reveiw the of the House of Lords found in favour of the chief constables and no compensation was paid. Yet £23m has been paid out in claims from fans that day with two reciveing over £1m the rest shared between 1500 other claims.

Quote: mutt1 "Not even in Lord Justice Taylors report? As people have posted ticketless fans were the norm in the 80's and to think that an FA cup semi final wouldn't have attracted any is just being nieve. The poblem with the Leppings lane end was once you approched the turnstyle ticket or no ticket you weren't getting back out because of the bottle necked entrance. The interim and final report can be found here Of course there were ticketless fans there but Tyldesley NO1 Leyther is right - there is no evidence that ticketless fans caused the deaths that day. Your quote from the Taylor report does nothing to contradict that. As for compensation, some police officers were denied the right to sue for damages but plenty more received payments. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1197720.stm www.independent.co.uk/news/hills ... 89055.html

Quote: mutt1 "Not even in Lord Justice Taylors report? As people have posted ticketless fans were the norm in the 80's and to think that an FA cup semi final wouldn't have attracted any is just being nieve. The poblem with the Leppings lane end was once you approched the turnstyle ticket or no ticket you weren't getting back out because of the bottle necked entrance. The interim and final report can be found here Of course there were ticketless fans there but Tyldesley NO1 Leyther is right - there is no evidence that ticketless fans caused the deaths that day. Your quote from the Taylor report does nothing to contradict that. As for compensation, some police officers were denied the right to sue for damages but plenty more received payments. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1197720.stm www.independent.co.uk/news/hills ... 89055.html

Excuse my scouse naivety but Bent and Bongs?????

And we'll never fill the ground

Atherton and Tyldesley

Cheers RC&W, is there a reason why they are called that?

rlHeres why Atherton is bentrl

rland Tyldesley is bongsrl

Now i know, cheers guys....

Thanks for that, I've just been reading "Pies and Predjudice" by Stuart Maconie and he mentions that he's never known why they were known as that, and I realised then that I didn't either

TBH I didnt and so when the question was asked I thought I would educate myself and then share my new found knowledge with the masses

Ahh but Leigh is known thus because?

Not a clue Frederico

Is it from the time when the state of Westleyth declared Independance from the known universe and the surrounding minor parishes who then tinkered with the name and came up with the Leigh tag ?