dont knock it we would have 'met' the financial bit if we had won a trophy

If Fax could qualify then so can we, it must be perfectly achievable - even if it does seem to involve the clubs 'massaging' the figures (or making them up, in Widnes' case ).

So we can ' fiddle ' our way through application criteria to gain a spot at the bottom of SL for 3 years

Wonderful

If Dennis Betts had any sense (which we know he hasn't) he would be first in the queue for Ellis

Michael , I don't think you got ' the point ' of my post

Plese enlighten me then. At the moment I'm a little dizzy on the fumes of awesome rugby football, so my perceptive skills may be lacking.

Remember after the last franchise descision. Widnes kept quiet and got about being RFL bitc*es, we had Allan Rowley complaining in the press to anyone who would listen how unfair it all was. Look where they will be in 2012 and look where we will be. Lessons must be learned, not least by Mr Rowley (if he still has a job when the consortium take over).

' At the bottom of SL for 3 years '

Well as Allan has worked long tireless hours all this week getting together the 'new consortium' I for one am glad he's been here he was the driving force behind Arthur Thomas being chairman, he's not taken a penny in wages from Leigh Centurions in all the time he's been Ch exec why shouldn't he not have a job - a job he's reluctantly done and as a favour to AT.
We have not had a chance at SL because we didn't win a trophy and that's the fact.

Hear, hear Fred. I personally thought Allan was well in order with his comments. If I had won the Euro Millions I would have had someone who lived and breathed Leigh to run then club and Alan would have been right up there for the job.

I disagree. It has been well documented over the years how he has drove away potential and existing sponsers from the club because of his attitude. I will never forget the night in the old Hilton lounge when he shouted down a very lucrative sponser of the club because he had cause to complain about how the team were nilled at home to Widnes in front of the Sky cameras.

And where was that same sponsor all the other times we have played Widnes over the last 6 seasons ?

The gentleman from Leigh cables was totally out of order , Alan was spot on , and not the only one who shouted him down that night , I did as well

Thanks Tony but I can't fixed income Kings Arms and all that.

Cya Sunday in York if you get a couple of hours off.

well documented where? in your dreams
and disagree about what? that he has worked tirelessly this week to get a consortium talking? that he was the main influence in getting AT here? that he doesnt recieve a wage for being Ch Exec at Leigh Centurions? and anything else in my post as above? yes Allan has his faults but as the saying goes let the first man throw the stone etc.... Without Allan there would be no At without AT no 'Basil' and who knows where we would have been

your remark is typical of someone who holds a grudge and wont let go even when your proven wrong as per Starbugs post above

this thread is so far off topic now.