That's because it's increasingly clear that outside Leigh you clearly don't know a lot about Rugby League.

Everyone`s entitled to an opinion , now just because said opinion does n`t agree with yours it does NOT invalidate it.

But his opinion isn't great as he doesn't watch him every week.

He is a fan favourite at Widnes and always bursts through the line at least twice in a game. Full time training could only make him better.

It isnt me who has to come on other fans message boards to try and put through a point though is it?

Ive watched Vark since he was 11 if his heart was as big as his frame he would have been a world beater, it's only a pity his brother wasn't as big or kept on playing Rugby now he was a good player.

In fact if people go through this message board when it was first started they would see that I was the first one to urge Leigh to sign him which they did and he did .....absolutely nothing.

Hopkins will replace Hilly, he looks like a younger version and has better coaches around him than Chris did at the same age. Fingers crossed we can find the finance to keep the rest of the current squad intact.

Whooa it`s an opinion and still relevant.

Totally agree, Sam Hopkins is going to be another Monster for us. He likes the defensive side of the game but is equally impressive in attack.

Don't like the way Sam holds the ball out but other than that he has all the same traits as Hilly had at his age. I think Sam has been watching Chris a lot, you can see it in the leg drives and his tackling. Today Robbie barked something at Sam and he nearly looked behind at Robbie but realised and moved into postion. I personally think Sam will be as good as Chris Hill in 3 to 5 years time. I hope it's still with us.

Well having watched Varks every game this season the one thing he certainly doesn't lack is heart.

Opinion is all well and good apart from when that opinion is that unless they are a Leigh player then their crap and notably any Widnes players especially.

How old was Varks when he played at Leigh? And how often? I'd say he's done enough in his career to justify himself at least as a very good championship player. As for 'rubbish' watch your little video again and ask why it's taking 4 of your men to get him down then.

Thinking his great or not is one thing but saying he's rubbish is born out of sheer ignorance tbh.

Some of you lot are so paranoid just point out where I have ever called ANY player rubbish? don't try and judge others by your own very poor standards
trying to justify hero worship is sheer ignorance not having an opinion on what one sees with one's own eyes on something
varks has always had the size and pace to make it at the top he is now around the 27 - 28 mark yet still playing championship rugby, now that speaks volumes he is an average championship player any more and you are deluding yourself as for my 'little' video I have watched it thank you very much and i'm glad you have i'll spend the money I get off BLIP.TV with satisfaction knowing you contributed, in fact I may donate the .25% of 1 cent to LISA . Oh by the way paddy Flynn is wasted on the wing as is Hulme at full back both are too good for those positions maybe the idiot who coaches them will notice it before he's sacked (but I doubt it) in fact I will say that all round Widnes probably have the better individual players than Leigh but it's playing as a team that lets them down when facing a strong defensive and 'bonded' team like Leigh (I have been involved over 10 years and this is the best TEAM re teamspirit I have seen), and like I said to Gary the Widnes commentator I don't want to play Widnes in the play-offs as I think they may well turn us over despite the coach and his lack of vision and odd substitution choices.
Oh and as I do get to see around 4 or 5 Championship teams DVD's every week as part of my 'little video' job (I will hazard a guess ive seen around 70% of Widnes games) then that's another of your 'arguments' blown out of the water that plus I try and not to 'hero worship' any player from any team even my own.
It may be that we do sign Varkulis next season after all we wont be able to afford the best, if so I'll still support him but won't change my mind, real supporters do that.
See unlike some two faced fools who troll different message boards slagging other teams and their supporters off then going to those same teams message boards and try to be so nicey nicey I don't feel the need to be so pedantic.

Blimey Fred your on a writing mission. Who cares we all have different opinions, and 70% of Widnes games you need to join the Stronghold to save money. See you with Frank B next year. Anyway what i have noticed is that moderators seem to go on a Power trip, and are never wrong.

I started this post mainly stating what a good aquisition Varks would be for Leigh , if he wasnt offered a SL contract by Widnes ,it seems to have gone much deeper now ,which was not my intention.
Richard in MY OPINION,is a good player , has had a very good season , they dont come any fitter than him,he doesnt lack heart ,has size ,and as we are losing a couple of Props next season i thought he could do a good job for us ,i still do .

FWIW apparently Widnes are giving those unsigned the yes or no this week so I guess we'll find out more shortly on his situation.

Nah I'm often wr5ong it';s just people can't prove it much

Power trip what this???? this is torture man believe me pure torture
A power trip is being 24years old and given the keys to a 2.8 capri, or a 750 Norton Commando a vascar machine and a radar gun and being let loose on the public compared to that this is just small potatoes

One thing I disagree with Fred is that Widnes won't get any where near us in the play offs and I'm not sure more than 4 Widnes players would make our squad. Agree on Betts he be getting his OBE nxt yr!!