What criteria do you refer to?

Winning a trophy this season

Good news if true, did n`t we nearly sign him a few years ago?

Seems to me Hill has been leaving every season since he started playing regularly for the first team and he's still here.

I'll believe it when I see it announced properly, still think he's more likely to go to Warrington what with Millward's relationship with Tony Smith. As for Jamie Ellis I think he'll want something more local, perhaps Salford or Widnes?

Grand Final apearance, or NL Cup Final Win, average attendance of 2500 in a season, stadium that meets SL minimum standard, meet the financial criteria for one season and have a SL quality youth structure. Oh and make £500,000 clear profit in a season despite all the salary cap restrictions of NL 1 (or that might just be an added bonus that Widnes were able to fulfil, with their multi-millionaire backer).

dont knock it we would have 'met' the financial bit if we had won a trophy

If Fax could qualify then so can we, it must be perfectly achievable - even if it does seem to involve the clubs 'massaging' the figures (or making them up, in Widnes' case ).

So we can ' fiddle ' our way through application criteria to gain a spot at the bottom of SL for 3 years

Wonderful

If Dennis Betts had any sense (which we know he hasn't) he would be first in the queue for Ellis

Michael , I don't think you got ' the point ' of my post

Plese enlighten me then. At the moment I'm a little dizzy on the fumes of awesome rugby football, so my perceptive skills may be lacking.

Remember after the last franchise descision. Widnes kept quiet and got about being RFL bitc*es, we had Allan Rowley complaining in the press to anyone who would listen how unfair it all was. Look where they will be in 2012 and look where we will be. Lessons must be learned, not least by Mr Rowley (if he still has a job when the consortium take over).