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How do we know it's a Bradford v Wakefield in the million pound game? Are we again taking things for granted!

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Quote: 8ULL5HITT4 "Seems reasonable that if no club is better than the four SL teams then no club should be promoted. How would the league be served if a lesser team went up. Built in quality control.'"


If the four SL clubs go back up, then I would like to see a more level playing field next year in the middle 8s, that's for sure.

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Quote: atomic "How do we know it's a Bradford v Wakefield in the million pound game? Are we again taking things for granted!'"


Because no club below Wakefield and Bradord can get 6 points.

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I think its been great especially for Fax.

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I've enjoyed it but I think we all, including the RFL, realise that some tweaks are needed for next year.
Possibly close the transfers off at week 20 or 18 and possibly better support for the Champ teams as well as paying them for televising home games.

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Quote: Cokey "If the four SL clubs go back up, then I would like to see a more level playing field next year in the middle 8s, that's for sure.'"

There is no level playing field across the Championship so not sure how it could be applied in the middle eights.

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Been great, cannot remember the last time I moved things around so I could attend the Rugby and actually drove to each match looking forward as the outcome of the score was never known.
I can also say that after Saturdays defeat v Bradford I haven't felt as gutted walking off a RL field and for so many days afterwards since Widnes knocked us out of the play offs in 2001, That's what competitive sport that matters does to fans.

Can't wait for next season already!

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It's certainly made things very exciting and a massive improvement over previous years. Think The Qualifiers are the way to go rather than straight promotion & relegation which didn't work before. However could do with a tweeking to stop teams from doing what Wakefield have done while rewarding teams like Leigh & Bradford for being so good in the Championship. Think the 12th place SL team & 4th Place Championship should get their points reset to zero & everyone carries how many more points than that they have up to a maximum of 5 (so you still have to perform in the Qualifiers).
So this year it'd have started
Widnes 5
Hull KR 5
Leigh 5
Bradford 5
Salford 5
Sheffield 1
Wakefield 0
Halifax 0

Though Wakefield have been an abnormality & I doubt they'd have thrown the whole Super League season if it'd have meant certain relegation. So removing Wakefield from it it'd have started.
Leigh 5
Bradford 5
Widnes 2
Hull KR 1
Sheffield 1
Salford 0
Halifax 0

Which would put the current standings at
Hull KR 13
Bradford 11
Widnes 10
Salford 10
Leigh 7
[Wakefield 6]
Sheffield 3
Halifax 2

It would make it more likely teams going up would come back down again but at least they'd have that one year of Super League experience and so will be a stronger team for it.

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Quote: 8ULL5HITT4 "Seems reasonable that if no club is better than the four SL teams then no club should be promoted. How would the league be served if a lesser team went up. Built in quality control.'"

I've made this point on loads of boards across the network to people who say just proves x team isn't good enough for super league. That's possibly correct but too think any promoted side wouldn't strengthen is just stupid. How do you know if they would be better or not unless you have a crystal ball or a time machine. In football teams in the championship don't have too beat a premier league for promotion they need too beat teams from the same league how it should be.

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Quote: 8ULL5HITT4 "There is no level playing field across the Championship so not sure how it could be applied in the middle eights.'"


I never said a level playing field across the championship, I said the middle 8s, meaning, Signing deadlines, and salary cap being increased. If for example it was raised to say £1.4m , then that should be applied to all clubs outside of SL to aspire the chance of doing better. Any club coming into the championship from championship 1 also had that kind of money to spend, then they stand a great chance to progress to the big time. Allowing SL clubs to be able to spend more money on their club opposed to other clubs outside of that division is surely some sought of discrimination.

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Quote: Lowton_Sparrow "It's certainly made things very exciting and a massive improvement over previous years. Think The Qualifiers are the way to go rather than straight promotion & relegation which didn't work before. However could do with a tweeking to stop teams from doing what Wakefield have done while rewarding teams like Leigh & Bradford for being so good in the Championship. Think the 12th place SL team & 4th Place Championship should get their points reset to zero & everyone carries how many more points than that they have up to a maximum of 5 (so you still have to perform in the Qualifiers).
So this year it'd have started
Widnes 5
Hull KR 5
Leigh 5
Bradford 5
Salford 5
Sheffield 1
Wakefield 0
Halifax 0

Though Wakefield have been an abnormality & I doubt they'd have thrown the whole Super League season if it'd have meant certain relegation. So removing Wakefield from it it'd have started.
Leigh 5
Bradford 5
Widnes 2
Hull KR 1
Sheffield 1
Salford 0
Halifax 0

Which would put the current standings at
Hull KR 13
Bradford 11
Widnes 10
Salford 10
Leigh 7
[Wakefield 6]
Sheffield 3
Halifax 2

It would make it more likely teams going up would come back down again but at least they'd have that one year of Super League experience and so will be a stronger team for it.'"


Hmm.. One year of SL..We were certainly stronger for it in 2005..You just can't pop up to SL and take a fall back to championship without serious consequences..Your either prepared before you go,or don't go at all.Simple.

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Quote: redeverready "I've made this point on loads of boards across the network to people who say just proves x team isn't good enough for super league. That's possibly correct but too think any promoted side wouldn't strengthen is just stupid. How do you know if they would be better or not unless you have a crystal ball or a time machine. In football teams in the championship don't have too beat a premier league for promotion they need too beat teams from the same league how it should be.'"



Again its one of those situations where comparisons with football dont stand up, the player availability in footy is big enough to work how you suggest, in RL it isnt, this system demands a level of performance in an intense situation, ideal preparation for entry to SL

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If you are to find the best 4 teams for SL from the 8, I don't see the logic of teams starting on anything other than 0 points. Personally I like this new structure but as people have said with the main tweak of moving the transfer deadline.

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Nothing wrong with the deadline IMO, same for all sides. Bulls changed their squad significantly towards back end. If you leave budget available to spend then fair play. I remember Rowley saying he wanted to sign someone, couldn't due to cap and that player signed for a rival and was now doing well. It's called budgeting. No different to you signing Hock and Higham, you just did it earlier

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Quote: DemonUK "If you are to find the best 4 teams for SL from the 8, I don't see the logic of teams starting on anything other than 0 points. Personally I like this new structure but as people have said with the main tweak of moving the transfer deadline.'"


I see that SL coaches are suggesting changing their 'Super 8' format, so that they all start on zero points too.

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