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Quote: atomic "How do you completely rebuild? By my estimation the Club would have a shortfall of £500k before we even started 2019 season. Without some serious investment in 2019, could see the end of the Club.

You can't afford to go to SL get relegated and not make it back to SL the season after. Thats what the parachute payment of £500k was put in place to prevent. The bar is set very high,we are back to SL or nowt.'"



If its nowt its nowt, we need to be a viable club , if that means back to the drawing board then so be it , if we are relying on a backer who's blowing hot/cold and wants to cut his losses then so be it . The system is rigged and i dont blame him if he did walk , hes invested a lot , took a gamble and it didn't pay off, but relying on someone with deep pockets to appear to remain viable isn't a good long term solution.

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Quote: doc999 "If its nowt its nowt, we need to be a viable club , if that means back to the drawing board then so be it , if we are relying on a backer who's blowing hot/cold and wants to cut his losses then so be it . The system is rigged and i dont blame him if he did walk , hes invested a lot , took a gamble and it didn't pay off, but relying on someone with deep pockets to appear to remain viable isn't a good long term solution.'"


It may not just be a case of him cutting his losses. Its all dependant on how the investments were made. He's a businessman and Leigh is his buisness.

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Quote: atomic "It may not just be a case of him cutting his losses. Its all dependant on how the investments were made. He's a businessman and Leigh is his buisness.'"


Atomic have a look here for your answer

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04587402

or just google Sporting Club Leigh Ltd
Quote: atomic "It may not just be a case of him cutting his losses. Its all dependant on how the investments were made. He's a businessman and Leigh is his buisness.'"


Atomic have a look here for your answer

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04587402

or just google Sporting Club Leigh Ltd


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There are a lot of posts going back quite a few years that state this Great club should never again fall into the ownership of one man, this was after the death of Arthur Thomas and the subsequent troubles that ensured financially. Now i'm not saying that the success of the club since should be taken for granted and DB has been the major contributor but now your almost in a ransom situation where if DB does one the club goes down the swanny, it won't, it will just mean that you have to cut your cloth accordingly anyone who sat in the supporters stand at Hilton Park listening to Tommy Sale talk when the Blackpool Mafia were very close to destroying the club will know it will always live on!!

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Wasn't the ownership split up between a few people prior to Derek taking sole control. I remember the dummy spits and dick measurements on here and other social media between Derek and Andy which ended with Andy leaving the club.

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Quote: WHERESYERBALL "There are a lot of posts going back quite a few years that state this Great club should never again fall into the ownership of one man, this was after the death of Arthur Thomas and the subsequent troubles that ensured financially. Now i'm not saying that the success of the club since should be taken for granted and DB has been the major contributor but now your almost in a ransom situation where if DB does one the club goes down the swanny, it won't, it will just mean that you have to cut your cloth accordingly anyone who sat in the supporters stand at Hilton Park listening to Tommy Sale talk when the Blackpool Mafia were very close to destroying the club will know it will always live on!!'"


I don't think this is a case of returning to the Hilton Park days. The Club has evolved,unfortunately as you say, above the means of one man. I agree being held to ransom is just ludicrous. Thats not to say there isn't someone out there willing to take his 56% share over.

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Quote: atomic "That doesn't show how investments are made. If I was to give you £1m tomorrow,that could be made up of a 50% loan which you owe me back, 25% from third parties and another 25% from secured properties. Not just a case of signing a cheque for £1m of your own money.'"


You need to look at the accounts for 2015 and 2016

At the year end 31st December 2016 Sporting Club Leigh Ltd had an outstanding loan from AB Sundecks amounting to six figures

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Quote: scrum "You need to look at the accounts for 2015 and 2016

At the year end 31st December 2016 Sporting Club Leigh Ltd had an outstanding loan from AB Sundecks amounting to six figures'"


Didn't AB Sundecks become the main shirt sponsor?

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Quote: atomic "He doesn't say "its not viable for him to stay".. What he's saying, is do the numbers. So lets do the numbers for this season so far. The figures below are all pure speculation but based on some factual quotes.

Basic Outgoings The figures show its self-sufficient at present and actually on its way to making a profit.'"


Hi Atomic.

I think, somewhere in that interview, he mentioned some unexpected expenditure relating to our season in SL, necessitating his contribution? Not sure what that was, but could it involve pending court cases/settlements with players who maintained their contracts were still valid, on relegation? (i.e. into the Championship)

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Quote: Alan "Hi Atomic.

I think, somewhere in that interview, he mentioned some unexpected expenditure relating to our season in SL, necessitating his contribution? Not sure what that was, but could it involve pending court cases/settlements with players who maintained their contracts were still valid, on relegation? (i.e. into the Championship)'"


Could well be that

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Quote: Alan "Hi Atomic.

I think, somewhere in that interview, he mentioned some unexpected expenditure relating to our season in SL, necessitating his contribution? Not sure what that was, but could it involve pending court cases/settlements with players who maintained their contracts were still valid, on relegation? (i.e. into the Championship)'"


Hi Alan.

Yes thanks for that,I did miss that, or don't recall it. Not quite sure what the additional expenditure was.

The RFL ruling is quite clear on relegation, as contracts do become null and void. Possibly some up and coming junior barrister found a typo in the script. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: atomic "Hi Alan.

Yes thanks for that,I did miss that, or don't recall it. Not quite sure what the additional expenditure was.

The RFL ruling is quite clear on relegation, as contracts do become null and void. Possibly some up and coming junior barrister found a typo in the script.
There is a story (unsubstantiated, as far as I'm aware) that certain players' contracts contained a clause about playing in the Championship, on relegation, as well as a clause relating to continuing in SL. Therefore, the SL part of the contract would be null and void, but the clause about playing in the Championship..................? Like I say, I'm in no position to verify that story, though.

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Quote: Alan "There is a story (unsubstantiated, as far as I'm aware) that certain players' contracts contained a clause about playing in the Championship, on relegation, as well as a clause relating to continuing in SL. Therefore, the SL part of the contract would be null and void, but the clause about playing in the Championship..................? Like I say, I'm in no position to verify that story, though.'"


That would probably tie in with new contracts being offered at reduced rates, as you say hearsay.

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Has anyone actually seen an advertisement for Head Coach at Leigh since this whole debacle began, because I am sure there are coaches out there who would relish the job, or is he indicating we can't afford a top coach, or he won't employ a top coach because a top coach wouldn't put up with DBs ego?

If we are not getting a coach now then it is obvious that you tell KC to roll his sleeves up and do the job with KP as his assistant. And you tell the players to roll their sleeves up, play with pride for the club and to get the Batley game won. Sounds like he's still blaming the fans after the Toulouse game and laying the foundations to leave at the end of the season or before.
This is a total mess.

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