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| To be honest why have Castleford bought Shenton,Webster and other costly players if can not afford it?No sympathy if lose their licence and say Leigh or Fax replace them.I can see why Widnes have not spent too much on players now and we have 4000 Stronghold members and averaged near to 6000 in our first year.The game is dieing to death and clubs need to be realistic.
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| But hang on Leigh and Fax are always in and out of money problems and have been for years!So why should you be the ones to replace them?
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| Quote Stanley30="Stanley30"But hang on Leigh and Fax are always in and out of money problems and have been for years!So why should you be the ones to replace them?'"
First off, I hope Cas can resolve their problems, if they indeed have any.
Secondly, IMO, nobody in the Championship is 'ready' yet to replace Cas, or anyone else in SL.
However, I believe what most of us wants is the opportunity to join that 'exclusive ' club of SL, when we are ready. As Maurice says, surely the way forward is to perhaps have the two leagues of ten, and fund the teams (ensuring that they spend wisely) accordingly. Better to have 20 strong teams, than about five?
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| The game is all but dead anyway and the champ clubs tying up with SL clubs to surely save the SL clubs some cash are contributing to that death. What is their reward? A reduction of RFL monies to 70k a year.
Reality - any one SL club gets more money than the whole of the 14 champ clubs money added together.....and people wonder why there is a problem.
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| As I have just said on the other thread Alan. I think the whole social occasion of watching a RL game live at any of the stadia is whilting. I don't know that even having two full time leagues will help the slide. Look at the gates for the semis of the CC and the playoffs. There were empty seats everywhere and that was the four big teams in our sport. I said a while ago - in response to a post about there not being the tallent in this country to fill the SL clubs - that no one knows what a player could do in a full time enviroment. I have just read a piece about Chris Hill where he says that there are loads of players in the championships that would be ok in SL, given full time status. I think our sport now needs to look closer to home for it's new stars in our domestic leagues and not thousands of miles away paying big bucks.
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| Quote TV BOY="TV BOY"As I have just said on the other thread Alan. I think the whole social occasion of watching a RL game live at any of the stadia is whilting. I don't know that even having two full time leagues will help the slide. Look at the gates for the semis of the CC and the playoffs. There were empty seats everywhere and that was the four big teams in our sport. I said a while ago - in response to a post about there not being the tallent in this country to fill the SL clubs - that no one knows what a player could do in a full time enviroment. I have just read a piece about Chris Hill where he says that there are loads of players in the championships that would be ok in SL, given full time status. I think our sport now needs to look closer to home for it's new stars in our domestic leagues and not thousands of miles away paying big bucks.'"
Good point mate i have watched a few Championship games and there is some talent,but alot have another job.The NRL pay top wages for their star players, so basically we are getting cast offs in Superleague, or players at the end of their careers.If we paid fulltime wages to Championship players they would improve.I would rather see a less skillful and competitive games with decent funds at clubs.
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| With P & R Widnes would have come straight down to be replaced by Sheffield assuming they could meet the criteria.
If we are to have P & R then give the promoted team a 3 year term before they can be relegated, much like Toulouse had in our division. On this basis Cas would have been relegated.
Yo-yo teams are not good for any of our 3 leagues.
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| Quote jpleigh="jpleigh"With P & R Widnes would have come straight down to be replaced by Sheffield assuming they could meet the criteria.
If we are to have P & R then give the promoted team a 3 year term before they can be relegated, much like Toulouse had in our division. On this basis Cas would have been relegated.
Yo-yo teams are not good for any of our 3 leagues.'"
But don't forget it wouldn't have been Widnes promoted in the first place. And given any sort of grace is exactly the problem with the current system - if you come bottom then you come down, no if's or but's.
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| Well this is getting embarrassing.
Another of Matt's post I agree with.
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| Something needs doing if they stay with franchising which I don't want personally a 2 year licence would still allow the team that goes up a season to find their feet & the 2nd to start the real campaign.
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| Quote mr. chairman="mr. chairman"It's not the trophy winning teams that should go to SL but the clubs that are well structured who when gaining promotion can sustain it . Don't have a go at me but Leigh are not a well structured club that would sustain a SL position at the moment and I don't think they will in 2014 but with time I can see them reaching SL in about 5 years time'"
Keith,
That's why (in my opinion) it's probably a blessing thet Bradford have been given a reprieve. For Leigh (or Halifax or Featherstone) to have been propelled into SL next season, could have been a disaster for those clubs. None of them has the necessary finance or structures in place to have made a fist of it.
In fairness, Leigh believe they could have been ready - so the above is purely my personal opinion.
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| After us nearly going under last year I see our club becoming stronger for that as we aren't relying a benefactor now & have to run our club on a tight budget. We look like a club being run the right way from what the board & everyone involved with the club are doing & hopefully our time will come one day.
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