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Derek says others feel this way , if thats the case they should all get together & sort it
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Not sure how wise the comments are, as don't think they will achieve anything and if the culture of blame the refs, rather than concentrate on things that can be controlled as made it's way into the club, then we're screwed.
That said, I also get bored of people with a grudge using forum anonymity to spread s***, so decidedly mixed feelings about this thread!
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| Quote LeythIg="LeythIg"Not sure how wise the comments are, as don't think they will achieve anything and if the culture of blame the refs, rather than concentrate on things that can be controlled as made it's way into the club, then we're screwed.
That said, I also get bored of people with a grudge using forum anonymity to spread s***, so decidedly mixed feelings about this thread!'"
The thing is , that now Dereck has taken it on his shoulders the players can now forget it and just get on with playing , rather than frustration getting the better of them as displayed yesterday
No doubt our next few matches will come under more scrutiny , is that a bad thing ? |
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| Quote GUBRATS="GUBRATS"The thing is , that now Dereck has taken it on his shoulders the players can now forget it and just get on with playing , rather than frustration getting the better of them as displayed yesterday
No doubt our next few matches will come under more scrutiny , is that a bad thing ?'"
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Well done Derek,
fully agree and back what he says, totally fed up with the standards of some referees.
It's a big problem that Ganson doesn't seem to be able to sort out.
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| Quote kiwileyther="kiwileyther"That was the worst refereeing display I have seen, and im not surprised Dereks had enough of them. Hicks should have over ruled the Pelisier decision, as it was clear Maria was pulled forward, but god only knows why he over ruled the other involving Ben Reynolds. Those are big decisions that change a game. Im not saying we would have won the game, but we would have been closer.'"
Pelisier used Maria as a shield and pushed into him, that was obstruction. The fact that Maria was pulled out of the way is irrelevant, Pelisier should have gone round him.
Derek's 'speech' has done nobody any favours, if he did it to deflect criticism of the coaching staff and players then it worked. The referee made a couple of mistakes but Leigh were poor, we were overwhelmed down the right flank but it wasn't actioned, we kicked to Hardaker at every opportunity and our half backs generally weren't good enough. Defence wasn't bad overall but attack was lacking ideas. |
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| Quote Alan="Alan"I've always been of the opinion that comments like that are not for the public domain. But I too am getting thoroughly fed up of the performance of 'certain referees'. I know they have a difficult job to do, but some seem to manage a lot better than others. And, for me, yesterday's ref has been, and will always be one of the 'others'! We saw a lot of him in the Championship, and I didn't like what I saw then - when we were winning all our games. I'm afraid that what was said, needed saying!
Let's get one thing clear. We were never going to beat Cas - they are a class apart, and played rugby that was wonderful to watch. However, before the game, I said that the guy with the whistle wouldn't let us play and, in the main, he didn't. I know the players are supposed to be professionals, and shouldn't let the ref get to them, but when virtually every 50/50 call goes against you, just how do you keep your discipline?
Yesterday, I went to watch and enjoy a closely contested game, and appreciate our 'classy' opponents. That was totally ruined, for me, by the incompetence and inconsistency of the guy who was supposed to be in charge. He succeeded in ruining the 'contest' by doing his bit to ensure a one-sided affair.
Well played Cas - you are indeed classy - but please keep away from Leigh Centurions, Mr Kendall. We have seen far too much of you this season!
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| Quote Greg Florimos Boots="Greg Florimos Boots"The problem with outbursts like this is that it has come after a game where any neutral watching will tell you the ref had a pretty decent game. He made mistakes for both sides a good example was in the lead up to one of Cas's tries when he waved play on then sent it upstairs as a no try. Its little stuff like that but overall any fair minded person watching that will know it was pretty even ref wise.
I think it more shows a man on edge who is losing his cool now he is playing with the big boys and is struggling to take the club where he wants them to be.'"
The trouble is Greg, you watched it on telly and was influenced by TV commentators and you know, they don't always comment on the offsides and forward passess! 'Ref' Kendall is appalling, we are not criticising him just on yesterdays performanmce and the loss, he is appalling every time we have had the misfortune to have Ref us! We had many wins in the Championship with him in charge so, its not just sour grapes  |
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| Quote reffy="reffy"Pelisier used Maria as a shield and pushed into him, that was obstruction. The fact that Maria was pulled out of the way is irrelevant, Pelisier should have gone round him.
Derek's 'speech' has done nobody any favours, if he did it to deflect criticism of the coaching staff and players then it worked. The referee made a couple of mistakes but Leigh were poor, we were overwhelmed down the right flank but it wasn't actioned, we kicked to Hardaker at every opportunity and our half backs generally weren't good enough. Defence wasn't bad overall but attack was lacking ideas.'"
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| Quote GUBRATS="GUBRATS"In isolation perhaps you are right , although it seems to be a recurring theme that the SKY pundits,commentators and indeed the ' tame ' ex ref are being dumbfounded by decisions against us , the Wakey away game being another
So expand that to several other games during our recent run and you can see the frustration , last Sunday at Newcastle Robert Lui did exactly what Ben Reynolds did yesterday but the decision was given the opposite way , costing us a try
From Derecks and our point of view it has reached the point where we have nothing to lose ( apart from a few grand for him ) , we don't expect to be allowed a fair crack anymore , especially against ' perceived ' superior teams , with Leeds and Wigan up next we'll just have to see
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Well I for one was under the impression you are where you are in the table because of poor performances, plus injuries and poor indiscipline, ageing players panic buys not to mention a coach who is either out of his depth or too frightened to tell degsy to keep his nose out of team affairs, but apparently it's none of those but simply poor refereeing and victimisation from them and the RFL, who'd have thought it  |
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"Well I for one was under the impression you are where you are in the table because of poor performances, plus injuries and poor indiscipline, ageing players panic buys not to mention a coach who is either out of his depth or too frightened to tell degsy to keep his nose out of team affairs, but apparently it's none of those but simply poor refereeing and victimisation from them and the RFL, who'd have thought it
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"Well I for one was under the impression you are where you are in the table because of poor performances, plus injuries and poor indiscipline, ageing players panic buys not to mention a coach who is either out of his depth or too frightened to tell degsy to keep his nose out of team affairs, but apparently it's none of those but simply poor refereeing and victimisation from them and the RFL, who'd have thought it
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