Irrelivant what Toronto or any other club does or doesnt do , we as a club need to build our core support base if we ever want to move up from 13th-17th in the UK RL ladder

It really is that simple

As an aside to my above post , to any suggesting that building a bigger fan base outside SL isnt possible , I would suggest since the introduction of full time proffessionalism with the introduction of SL in 1995 , Leigh Centurions have won more matches than any other RL club , and with a reasonably stable future over the next few years that should continue , that and the LSV should allow us to build that fan base

I appreciate that we have more significant hurdles to clear, but I was responding to Neil's suggestion that our owner will re-emerge 'once Toronto are out of the way'. It is of interest how they fare. Their potential success, in the form of elevation to SL, could possibly attract other 'foreign' teams into our leagues, and then our aimed for stability & growth, may just encounter a whole new raft of obstacles.

Its not though is it? Very easy to write down on a forum but in reality it's very difficult

Cmon starbugs always right

I think he meant that the theory sounded simple. (especially when you say it fast!) However, after the twelve months we've had, I would venture to suggest it really will be very difficult! I'd love to see crowds of 3,000+, to start next season, but would be very surprised if that happens. OK, some of us have been 'won over', by our survival, and the announcement of fifteen players, but I encounter many who are not happy, at what happened last season, and what has followed.

Anyway, season tickets tomorrow!

And what influence on that can we have ?

Stability and growth are our problems to be solved , what others do is irrelevant

By focusing on others you can lose the target you desire

Not denying its difficult , but it is simple in that it is and should be the primary function of the clubs administration once the recruitment is complete

In theory we will lose 50 fans every year , replace them with 25 and we decline , replace them with 100 and we build

You don't 'focus' on others - you 'focus' on yourself. But surely you have to be aware of all the others, and what they are doing? After all, we are in direct competition with Toronto, and all the other Championship teams.

James Dyson is, presumably, obsessively focused on his range of vacuum cleaners, and aims to be ahead of his competitors at all times. But, in order to do that, he has to be very aware of what they are up to.

Anyway, if we are, as has been suggested, awaiting the removal of Toronto Wolfpack from the Championship, before we reveal our future hand, I would argue that we consider what they do, highly relevant.

All sounds good buggy, but do you think the club are gong to take your route ?? Are you volunteering to undertake the process for them, two weeks ago we couldn’t fund a team - we barely did it when we were “flush” not likely to start now are we

Once again , we are in competition with Toronto and the other Championship clubs for 80 minutes a couple of times each season ( 3 with Widnes this year ) , we are however in competition with Wigan,Wire,Saints,ManU,Man City, Liverpool , Cinema's , bowling alleys and plenty of other stuff 52 weeks of the year

Probably not

Would love to if the money was set aside

We didn't do it at all when we were flush unfortunately

The marketing budget should be set , and ' ring fenced ' before the playing budget

Hope he proves me wrong .