QuoteWYSIWYG2="WYSIWYG2"My take is both sides are at fault. Salford for spending more than they can afford is the crux of the problem and they should be penalised as such. The RFL for allowing the situation to drag on. They should have allowed Salford to field their strongest team and punished Salford with a points deduction rather than letting this farce play out in front of the BBC cameras. Unfortunately, we have no strong leadership or common sense in the RFL.'"
I agree the RFL have handled the whole situation poorly, ever since the request for advanced funds was made. But the team selection made by Rowley was an absolute disgrace. They knew and accepted the salary cap conditions as part of receiving the advance, and what that reduced cap does is stop Salford from fielding a team that is funded by an advance not available to other clubs.
To not pick the first teamers they could pick was bad enough. To only go with 3 subs is dreadful. There should be some punishment dished out for this, and given their willingness to throw these kids into impossible situations, I'd be asking serious questions about whether they should be allowed and elite academy license. They ought to be put on notice that they will revoke that if they pull such a stunt again.
What I can’t get my head around, is why img didn’t spot any issues around there finances when they were doing there gradings. As for Rowley saying about players meeting each other for the first time, total .
Quotesatanicmills="satanicmills"nonsense the result on thursday got biggest coverage friday than rl has had for yonks our first win in wiggin for 40 years plus might also stick in the mind
salford had far too much space on this forum'"
Were Bongser to have his thoughts “dissed” by the real ee cummings, he would indeed be flattered (if a little alarmed, as said gent has been dead for 62 years), but he accepts no pale imitations! “Diss-missed!”
Bongser spoke of the collective mind, not yours. As B got into work today, the cleaner, Brian (Manc, works Sunday to Thursday) spoke not about Wigan 0-1 Leigh, but about the farce with Saints.
Derek has been very supportive of Salford in their inpecunity (see his posts/tweets passim), but he seems well dischuffed with Rowley’s shenanigans:
Though, with the RFL as ever moving slower than an iceberg (will there be any icebergs left by the time they act? And, no, Bongser is not talking about lettuces (or Liz Truss)) will anything meaningful happen. They’ve given Salford a week to respond. Why a week in this “instant” day & age?
Postpone any ratification of the new ownership until a response is forthcoming; keep the sanctions in place; and if Rowls (to borrow a cudgel from Leythig) pulls the same stunt again versus Leeds on Saturday, come down hard!
satanic mills, Bongser presumes that you derive your name from William Blake, He also wrote, “There is a grain of sand in Lambeth that Satan cannot find.”
Is there a grain of integrity in Mr Integrity? Will he hold up his hands, admit that he behaved deplorably, apologise and accept the consequences? Or will he come out all-guns-blazing like Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid?
If the latter, Bongser can only see a picture of Paul Rowley fade into sepia to a Bacharach soundtrack concerning raindrops and a dikk-ead!
Rant over!
For now…..
Annoyed of Atherton (name & address supplied).
Narked RAMBLE ALERT!
Quotesatanicmills="satanicmills"nonsense the result on thursday got biggest coverage friday than rl has had for yonks our first win in wiggin for 40 years plus might also stick in the mind
salford had far too much space on this forum'"
Were Bongser to have his thoughts “dissed” by the real ee cummings, he would indeed be flattered (if a little alarmed, as said gent has been dead for 62 years), but he accepts no pale imitations! “Diss-missed!”
Bongser spoke of the collective mind, not yours. As B got into work today, the cleaner, Brian (Manc, works Sunday to Thursday) spoke not about Wigan 0-1 Leigh, but about the farce with Saints.
Derek has been very supportive of Salford in their inpecunity (see his posts/tweets passim), but he seems well dischuffed with Rowley’s shenanigans:
Though, with the RFL as ever moving slower than an iceberg (will there be any icebergs left by the time they act? And, no, Bongser is not talking about lettuces (or Liz Truss)) will anything meaningful happen. They’ve given Salford a week to respond. Why a week in this “instant” day & age?
Postpone any ratification of the new ownership until a response is forthcoming; keep the sanctions in place; and if Rowls (to borrow a cudgel from Leythig) pulls the same stunt again versus Leeds on Saturday, come down hard!
satanic mills, Bongser presumes that you derive your name from William Blake, He also wrote, “There is a grain of sand in Lambeth that Satan cannot find.”
Is there a grain of integrity in Mr Integrity? Will he hold up his hands, admit that he behaved deplorably, apologise and accept the consequences? Or will he come out all-guns-blazing like Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid?
If the latter, Bongser can only see a picture of Paul Rowley fade into sepia to a Bacharach soundtrack concerning raindrops and a dikk-ead!
"Non-payment of wages to a sportsperson may not automatically render the contract null and void, but it can provide grounds for termination or legal action, depending on the terms of the contract and the applicable laws or regulations.
Here’s how it typically works:
Contract Terms: The contract itself will often outline the consequences of non-payment. If there is a clause stating that non-payment is a material breach, the sportsperson may be entitled to terminate the contract.
Material Breach: In many jurisdictions, non-payment of wages is considered a material breach of contract, especially if the payments are a significant part of the contract's obligations.
Right to Terminate: If the non-payment constitutes a material breach, the sportsperson can issue a formal notice of breach to the employer, giving them a certain period to remedy the situation (often referred to as a "grace period").
Governing Regulations: Certain sports are governed by specific regulations (like FIFA Regulations for football players or player union agreements). These regulations often provide mechanisms for resolving wage disputes and may allow contract termination if wages are not paid within a certain period.
Legal Action & Damages: The sportsperson may also pursue legal action for breach of contract to recover unpaid wages and potentially claim additional damages.
Null and Void vs. Termination:
"Null and Void" typically means the contract was never valid from the start — which is rare in wage disputes.
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Based on our recent performances, I’d be tempted to make offers for the likes of Mellor, Morgan and Shorrocks. Sam Stone if quota exceptions are put in place. And offer Dwyer and McNamara the other way.
Based on our recent performances, I’d be tempted to make offers for the likes of Mellor, Morgan and Shorrocks. Sam Stone if quota exceptions are put in place. And offer Dwyer and McNamara the other way.
Whilst I agree McNamara & Dwyer aren’t good enough we have bigger problems, the top teams are ruthless and if players aren’t good enough they make decisions quickly.
We have so much dead cap space it’s a joke, if you look at our squad outside the top 17 the most are inexperienced young players who are rarely going to get a game.
I know the clubs strategy is to go with youth but the likes of Wilde, Brown, Rothwell, Derbyshire aren’t going to get a game, some like Towse and Brough have been unfortunate and are probably more for 2026. We sign a young prop from Castleford (Brad Martin) who has 40 SL appearances but hasn’t played a competitive game for us and has been loaned out for half of his 2 year deal even when we are short of props.
Pene is never going to make it, he is just like Nakabuwai and Seumanufagai as the quota forward we always seem to sign that just have any aggression, other teams would have already paid him off to improve the team as you can’t have quota players not playing and knowing we need a HB so much.
We have had Halfback problems for 2 years and never addressed them, Lachlan Lam looks like he’s sulking as he can’t get an NRL team, he’s asking for a fortune and his form is diabolical, if his dad wasn’t coach he would have been dropped.
People may not like my opinion but I don’t think our recruitment and retention has been as good as made out.
Just have a look at our team from the GF in 2022, we had Inu, Macdonald and Ferguson in our backs, I know the quota rule is different but we had quality players in important positions.
We have a quality pack now but as you can clearly see we just can’t score enough with our back line and halves.
I think we are short another second row, a halfback, a centre and a ball playing loose forward.
I'd be in for a return of Mellor and Stone, as much as I like Shorrocks I don't think he offers that much that we've haven't got already.
It will always be a shame that Inu is 38, need him just for goal kicking alone.
I seem to recall most on here suggesting that this year would be a transition year...well here we are, transitioning. I'm comfortable in saying we probably over performed in the last two years, possibly helped by many other teams being more rotten and also bang average than usual but we are where we are.
The way the league looks now, Wigan and KR are way ahead of the rest of the league on-field, that we still sit in the middle bunch can't be that bad.
It simply would appear that Asiata was really key to our whole team performance but than again we ground out results last year when he was injured so it may well be an attitude thing with the squad.
Based on our recent performances, I’d be tempted to make offers for the likes of Mellor, Morgan and Shorrocks. Sam Stone if quota exceptions are put in place. And offer Dwyer and McNamara the other way.
Whilst I agree McNamara & Dwyer aren’t good enough we have bigger problems, the top teams are ruthless and if players aren’t good enough they make decisions quickly.
We have so much dead cap space it’s a joke, if you look at our squad outside the top 17 the most are inexperienced young players who are rarely going to get a game.
I know the clubs strategy is to go with youth but the likes of Wilde, Brown, Rothwell, Derbyshire aren’t going to get a game, some like Towse and Brough have been unfortunate and are probably more for 2026. We sign a young prop from Castleford (Brad Martin) who has 40 SL appearances but hasn’t played a competitive game for us and has been loaned out for half of his 2 year deal even when we are short of props.
Pene is never going to make it, he is just like Nakabuwai and Seumanufagai as the quota forward we always seem to sign that just have any aggression, other teams would have already paid him off to improve the team as you can’t have quota players not playing and knowing we need a HB so much.
We have had Halfback problems for 2 years and never addressed them, Lachlan Lam looks like he’s sulking as he can’t get an NRL team, he’s asking for a fortune and his form is diabolical, if his dad wasn’t coach he would have been dropped.
People may not like my opinion but I don’t think our recruitment and retention has been as good as made out.
Just have a look at our team from the GF in 2022, we had Inu, Macdonald and Ferguson in our backs, I know the quota rule is different but we had quality players in important positions.
We have a quality pack now but as you can clearly see we just can’t score enough with our back line and halves.
I think we are short another second row, a halfback, a centre and a ball playing loose forward.
The half back problems will persist until we accept that Lachlan Lam isn’t an organiser. Nor does he have a rugby brain, but he has a lot of skill and would be lethal if he has an organiser to play off.
I’ve some sympathy for the recruitment, given the need to literally make up numbers to establish a reserves. But the nonsense with not dealing with Sam Ayoub makes matters worse, and my biggest fear is that the owner is closer to the playing side since Chester left. And that never ends well.
Doubt we’ll free up a quota spot while Pene is injured but he needs paying off next year.
Based on our recent performances, I’d be tempted to make offers for the likes of Mellor, Morgan and Shorrocks. Sam Stone if quota exceptions are put in place. And offer Dwyer and McNamara the other way.
Whilst I agree McNamara & Dwyer aren’t good enough we have bigger problems, the top teams are ruthless and if players aren’t good enough they make decisions quickly.
We have so much dead cap space it’s a joke, if you look at our squad outside the top 17 the most are inexperienced young players who are rarely going to get a game.
I know the clubs strategy is to go with youth but the likes of Wilde, Brown, Rothwell, Derbyshire aren’t going to get a game, some like Towse and Brough have been unfortunate and are probably more for 2026. We sign a young prop from Castleford (Brad Martin) who has 40 SL appearances but hasn’t played a competitive game for us and has been loaned out for half of his 2 year deal even when we are short of props.
Pene is never going to make it, he is just like Nakabuwai and Seumanufagai as the quota forward we always seem to sign that just have any aggression, other teams would have already paid him off to improve the team as you can’t have quota players not playing and knowing we need a HB so much.
We have had Halfback problems for 2 years and never addressed them, Lachlan Lam looks like he’s sulking as he can’t get an NRL team, he’s asking for a fortune and his form is diabolical, if his dad wasn’t coach he would have been dropped.
People may not like my opinion but I don’t think our recruitment and retention has been as good as made out.
Just have a look at our team from the GF in 2022, we had Inu, Macdonald and Ferguson in our backs, I know the quota rule is different but we had quality players in important positions.
We have a quality pack now but as you can clearly see we just can’t score enough with our back line and halves.
I think we are short another second row, a halfback, a centre and a ball playing loose forward.
The half back problems will persist until we accept that Lachlan Lam isn’t an organiser. Nor does he have a rugby brain, but he has a lot of skill and would be lethal if he has an organiser to play off.
I’ve some sympathy for the recruitment, given the need to literally make up numbers to establish a reserves. But the nonsense with not dealing with Sam Ayoub makes matters worse, and my biggest fear is that the owner is closer to the playing side since Chester left. And that never ends well.
Doubt we’ll free up a quota spot while Pene is injured but he needs paying off next year.
Our quota and cap space and missing out on Sneyd will pay off big time next season when Mary Fowler wins the romantic tussle and her boyfriend has to relocate to the UK in search of a rugby league job.
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