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All agree good 1st season. Now is the time we will see if he is prepared to make the decisive calls on the squad. Going into 2019 with Brown will result in failure again. Hill is not a captain that we need. And get a sports psychologist in now to work with the players.

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Quote: Wires71 "All agree good 1st season. Now is the time we will see if he is prepared to make the decisive calls on the squad. Going into 2019 with Brown will result in failure again. Hill is not a captain that we need. And get a sports psychologist in now to work with the players.'"

Can't fault Hill as captain under Price. As the season has gone on his silly penalties have been eradicated and his club presence has evolved.
I don't know how you cannot see that W71.
Brown has a return of 2/3 decent games in a season. Not a good return.
No question I'd be looking to retire him off or consider him a bence back for this last season.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Can't fault Hill as captain under Price. As the season has gone on his silly penalties have been eradicated and his club presence has evolved.
I don't know how you cannot see that W71.
Brown has a return of 2/3 decent games in a season. Not a good return.
No question I'd be looking to retire him off or consider him a bence back for this last season.'"


That second half was torturous. It was like losing in slow motion in 40 minutes. The players looked flat and leaderless. I have no complaint with Hill as a forward, just not an on-field captain in a million years.

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Quote: Wires71 "That second half was torturous. It was like losing in slow motion in 40 minutes. The players looked flat and leaderless. I have no complaint with Hill as a forward, just not an on-field captain in a million years.'"

What does Hill being a skipper have to do with a 'looked flat' side?

We have ineffective half backs at big game level.

Brown and Austin?..I don't know. Well we only have 12 month to find out then we can go for someone else.

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Quote: rubber duckie "What does Hill being a skipper have to do with a 'looked flat' side?

We have ineffective half backs at big game level.

Brown and Austin?..I don't know. Well we only have 12 month to find out then we can go for someone else.'"


I can’t see why we have to wait 12 months, I’d pay Brown off now and at least give Drinkwater a go. The guy is a free agent he helped get Catalan going and I’m surprised he as not been snapped up. He can’t do any worse than what we currently have ?

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Quote: rubber duckie "Can't fault Hill as captain under Price. As the season has gone on his silly penalties have been eradicated and his club presence has evolved.
I don't know how you cannot see that W71.
Brown has a return of 2/3 decent games in a season. Not a good return.
No question I'd be looking to retire him off or consider him a bence back for this last season.'"

I'd go for retiring Brown as the latter isn't the answer. Patton is likely to be our bench back in 2019 - I cannot see Patton starting and Brown being on the bench.

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Brown is a conundrum.
He kicking game at time is garbage but he can be very effective if it wasn't for such disfunction from Roberts, Brown would have more time to evaluate and control things at his pace.

I'd be okay with giving him the benefit of doubt...Roberts however wouldn't get a deal if he paid us 400k a year.

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Lefty's wishlist

Tomorrow morning, Price knocks on Moran's door

"Sit down, Steve.
So how do you think your first year's gone"

"Pretty good, Simon. Two finals, and top 4, from a side that was shellshocked that I inherited. Actually, Si, you know that list of 7 I want rid of,? I've been thinking mate, and I want to add a few more.

Kevin Brown doesn't do that much, for all that money your paying him. Organising 4 drives, one play and a kick doesn't warrant his pay packet. I'm done with him.

That lad with the top knot, what's his name? Sits on the bench next to me for 70 minutes, messing with his phone, telling all and sundry how good he is, then when I play him, he's no better than who I've replaced him with. Patton. That's him. Nah, he can go.

Then there's the fella with loads of vowels in his surname. Lazy bugger. Couple of runs, and he's got his hands on his knees. Had enough.

That's it for the [ithanks for the memories[/i bit.

Others, well I've told old double barrel, to lose a few stone. Fat git. And if I see him waddling down the cream cake aisle in Tesco's after training, he's gone.

I'll have to make a decision on Currie at this time next year. No point him wearing a club suit, forever, on match days.

Now, it's cheque book time, mate.
I've decided to ditch all this boring rugby, and play with some flair. So I wouldn't mind you buying me a scrum half. Loads of people keep talking on a fans forum about some bloke who plays for Catalans, and he hasn't got a club. Yeah, I'll have him. Oh, and an old fashioned loose forward, with a brain, would be nice. I'm bored of playing old props there.

Cheers, Si. I'm off to Oz for a few weeks.
See you before Chrimbo."

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "Lefty's wishlist

Tomorrow morning, Price knocks on Moran's door

"Sit down, Steve.
So how do you think your first year's gone"

"Pretty good, Simon. Two finals, and top 4, from a side that was shellshocked that I inherited. Actually, Si, you know that list of 7 I want rid of,? I've been thinking mate, and I want to add a few more.

Kevin Brown doesn't do that much, for all that money your paying him. Organising 4 drives, one play and a kick doesn't warrant his pay packet. I'm done with him.

That lad with the top knot, what's his name? Sits on the bench next to me for 70 minutes, messing with his phone, telling all and sundry how good he is, then when I play him, he's no better than who I've replaced him with. Patton. That's him. Nah, he can go.

Then there's the fella with loads of vowels in his surname. Lazy bugger. Couple of runs, and he's got his hands on his knees. Had enough.

That's it for the [ithanks for the memories[/i bit.

Others, well I've told old double barrel, to lose a few stone. Fat git. And if I see him waddling down the cream cake aisle in Tesco's after training, he's gone.

I'll have to make a decision on Currie at this time next year. No point him wearing a club suit, forever, on match days.

Now, it's cheque book time, mate.
I've decided to ditch all this boring rugby, and play with some flair. So I wouldn't mind you buying me a scrum half. Loads of people keep talking on a fans forum about some bloke who plays for Catalans, and he hasn't got a club. Yeah, I'll have him. Oh, and an old fashioned loose forward, with a brain, would be nice. I'm bored of playing old props there.

Cheers, Si. I'm off to Oz for a few weeks.
See you before Chrimbo."'"


I've read all of that with an aussie accent and it's as if I was there and it's actually happened.

Drinkwater would be a perfect fit. I really hope we can find a way to sign him. There is no point going in to the next season without a kicking game or creativity or we will just fall short again. The short comings need addressing and we could be up for the lot next season. Especially with saints losing Barba and Wigan having a bit of a reshuffle.

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Quote: Wires71 "All agree good 1st season. Now is the time we will see if he is prepared to make the decisive calls on the squad. Going into 2019 with Brown will result in failure again. Hill is not a captain that we need. And get a sports psychologist in now to work with the players.'"


I thought Hill was exceptional for you last night so to me that seems harsh. He was head and shoulders the best prop on the field making over 170 metres.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I thought Hill was exceptional for you last night so to me that seems harsh. He was head and shoulders the best prop on the field making over 170 metres.'"

It won't work.
I like W71 but he has agendas that at times stand no level of reason.

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Hill is a great forward, just not captain. I know I am not alone in that view.

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I like what price has done so far regarding personel, getting rid of players and dropping them when out of form. But there were large parts of the game i thought that along with nothing coming from the halves, the vacks looked clueless with little idea and unorganised. I found it disappointing the lack of urgency and fire from lots of the players in the most important game of the season.

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Quote: gary numan "I like what price has done so far regarding personel, getting rid of players and dropping them when out of form. But there were large parts of the game i thought that along with nothing coming from the halves, the vacks looked clueless with little idea and unorganised. I found it disappointing the lack of urgency and fire from lots of the players in the most important game of the season.'"


It was weird when they came out so early for the 2nd half. The body language looked, to me, as if they felt beaten then.

One thing that stood out is the link between 2nd row and centre in attack.

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Brown and roberts were having a right go at each other at the end if the 1st half iirc

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