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Do you need a Facebook account before you can vote?

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What do you mean no Brent Grose on the shortlist?

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As much as I liked Brett Hodgson he was only here for 3 yrs and less than 100 apps. To me I'd expect a bit more longevity from a 'legend' to even make the shortlist.

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Steve Hesford was a legend.

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Whitehead in that list would get my vote! I was always a fan of lyons tho maybe nostalgia goggles lol

I wonder what has happened to him after playing he was part of saints and wigan youth set up progressed to England academy and was involved in the England schoolboys first ever win over the Australian team at home, next moved to head coach of academy and got their first ever win on Australian soil against the Australian schoolboys. Next assistant to noble and was part of the set up that saw us beat Australia for first time in a long time, that's a pretty decent CV for an assistant could he help us to our first ever.....

Will also be interesting to see if scully or harris are in for a vote!! And if relatively short term players like Nigel vagana or Davidson will get a wild card nomination??

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So many to choose from. Mike Greg, Boyd, Davies, Blake, Nicholas, Bevan, Parry Gordon, Ken Kelly, ...

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Quote: Wires71 "So many to choose from. Mike Greg, Boyd, Davies, Blake, Nicholas, Bevan, Parry Gordon, Ken Kelly, ...'"


All the modern greats there - no wonder it's never been your year.

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Quote: Wires71 "So many to choose from. Mike Greg, Boyd, Davies, Blake, Nicholas, Bevan, Parry Gordon, Ken Kelly, ...'"



This illustrates the sort of issues with these 'legends' polls - we perceive 'legends' based on a particular time fence from when we grew up watching the game, in the above list early 80s-90s.

We tend to exclude 'legends' we never saw play, or include them because of the opinion of others, then often deride those modern players because of more recent exposure or negativities that things were better/tougher in the past.

Hey, nobody is right or wrong, its just skewed opinion.

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Quote: shinymcshine "As much as I liked Brett Hodgson he was only here for 3 yrs and less than 100 apps. To me I'd expect a bit more longevity from a 'legend' to even make the shortlist.'"


What should that matter? Jamie Lyon was only at Saints for a couple of years, but with what he achieved and the games he won on his own or had a big influence on, I'm sure most Saints fans would consider him a legend.

Jon Wilkin on the other hand a lot would have the opposite opinion of and he's been there years - time/appearances don't make you a legend.

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Quote: Wires71 "So many to choose from. Mike Greg, Boyd, Davies, Blake, Nicholas, Bevan, Parry Gordon, Ken Kelly, ...'"
Surely can't forget Dessie off that list!

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Quote: runningman29 "Surely can't forget Dessie off that list!'"


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Quote: shinymcshine "This illustrates the sort of issues with these 'legends' polls - we perceive 'legends' based on a particular time fence from when we grew up watching the game, in the above list early 80s-90s.

We tend to exclude 'legends' we never saw play, or include them because of the opinion of others, then often deride those modern players because of more recent exposure or negativities that things were better/tougher in the past.

Hey, nobody is right or wrong, its just skewed opinion.'"


Yes very true. Mike Nic and Brian Bevan the exception to the 80-90s.

However I would have to bit my lip if someone votes for Ashton Sims over Harry Bath (for example)

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I liked Hesford, he was a great goal kicker, but legend? Obviously this is a matter of opinion, a bit like my sneaking regard for Glenn Knight...perhaps it's a hair thing?

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Quote: shinymcshine "This illustrates the sort of issues with these 'legends' polls - we perceive 'legends' based on a particular time fence from when we grew up watching the game, in the above list early 80s-90s.

We tend to exclude 'legends' we never saw play, or include them because of the opinion of others, then often deride those modern players because of more recent exposure or negativities that things were better/tougher in the past.

Hey, nobody is right or wrong, its just skewed opinion.'"



And also why saints ended up with a statue of kieron cunningham, rather than anyone else of the greats that have played for them.

They have more younger fans that have seen his entire career and grown up with him, that are social media active.

Arguably, in 30 years people will look back and remember him as being one of their greats(having forgotten his coaching spell) but i'll bet as a relatively young man, he thinks its weird that there's a bronze statue of him somewhere*


*that looks like andy farrell.

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