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I'm perplexed, Gents.

Are we not turning over a profit, these days? I'm sure I read that we are, now.

Bearing in mind, we are no longer paying big wages for Briers, Morley, Waterhouse, King, Monaghan x2, Carvell, Myler et al, we should have a fair bit of salary cap still to spend.
Granted, we now have Clark (ex MoS), Hill and a few "bright young things" who need their contracts upping, to deter envious eyes. Yet we are shopping from Netto's bargain bin, buying stuff coming to the end of their "best before date", or stuff that no-one wants.

I give you
Wheeler
Some fella called Cox (not Doc from That's Life)
a 30odd year old Aussie, who nobody's got a definitive answer as to where he's gonna be played
two Hull players, who've cost a lot of money, yet wont be missed by Hull
and now, to put the cherry on the out of date cake, I give you (please take him....I don't want him)Ryan Bailey

Has Moran lost faith with Smith, and is keeping him on a short leash, re spending, so a new coach can buy who he wants?
Or his Smith done an Edmund Blackadder, put his underpants on his head, pencils up his nostrils, and said "WIBBLE" in every meeting they've had?

Things aint right, lads.

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From an outsiders point of view it does seem somewhat strange on Wire's new found recruitment policy. Since the core of your forward pack left it seems you have been trying to patch it up with players rather than replace them. Clark for MM, Ok that was a good signing but there have been some unusual signings in the forward line. I don't think there is a team bar Leeds that will be completely happy with what they have 'up top' but it strikes me of a side that has lost some ambition.It remains to be seen how it will pan out but it doesn't bode well for a side of Warrington's recent success. If i had to make an off the cuff prediction i would say a 6th or 7th placed finish would await Wire this term. We have Sam Tomkins back, it remains to be seen how Leeds react but they always seem to do so. Saints have been steadily building over the last couple of seasons with the emergence of Walmsley and Savelio etc and Catalans and Hull are always seemingly looking to improve. You seem to be standing still and watching it happen. I hope for the leagues sake you remain competitive but just can't see you having enough in the tank.

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By a '30 odd Aussie' I'm assuming you mean 26-year-old Mitchell Dodds?

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Quote: garyhulsefan "By a '30 odd Aussie' I'm assuming you mean 26-year-old Mitchell Dodds?'"

I had that meaning Gidley? 30 odd Aussie who nobody knows where he will play must mean Gidley FB or 6

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I'm very confident myself Lefty.
I'm usually in your corner over scepticism and dissatisfaction, but until I see Bailey Cox Gidley and a fit Wheeler faulter, they'll get my full support.
I must admit to being underwhelmed by Wheeler last season, but the kid has class.

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Gidley should be a very good signing. He's been carrying the Knights for years and was unfairly blamed for NSW not being able to beat Qld when the basic fact was Qld had a far better team. Lineham seems like a cracking prospect. Westerman has the physical attributes to be a great forward. Sandow will have a full pre season and the chance to gel with Gidley.

Bailey's a bit odd, but very low risk from a financial POV so I'm not sure why the grief overall?

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Don't panic. Bailey is going to end up with seven GF rings.

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Well if other clubs' fans are underwhelmed by our squad I assume we won't be getting any accusations that we must be over the salary cap for the season

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I'll say it again some of our players (mostly homeg grown) have to step up

Wigan have done it - Charnley Burgess Gelling Sarginson

they were all talented youngsters who have stepped up when needed

Saints have Makinson Swift Percival etec etc

So its time for our guys to do the same

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Quote: ScouseWire "I had that meaning Gidley? 30 odd Aussie who nobody knows where he will play must mean Gidley FB or 6'"

Ah, I read that as 'when he's going to play', reffering to his injury problems. Gidley will be a great signing.

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Quote: TheDoc "I'll say it again some of our players (mostly homeg grown) have to step up

Wigan have done it - Charnley Burgess Gelling Sarginson

they were all talented youngsters who have stepped up when needed

Saints have Makinson Swift Percival etec etc

So its time for our guys to do the same'"
Quote: TheDoc "I'll say it again some of our players (mostly homeg grown) have to step up

Wigan have done it - Charnley Burgess Gelling Sarginson

they were all talented youngsters who have stepped up when needed

Saints have Makinson Swift Percival etec etc

So its time for our guys to do the same'"


I think some of the decisions at other clubs may have been forced on them due to injuries to more senior players at times but there should be a lesson for TS to stop chopping & changing any included youngsters & let them build confidence by rectifying their own mistakes.

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I cant help but think the club has missed a trick not replacing Smith as part of this rebuild..... They are looking to transform the clubs image, they have had a massive clear out of players after the disastrous recruitment and performances over the last few years.... They could have said "we would like to thank Tony for all his hard work and the great days out at wembley etc.... " we could have gone our separate ways and everyone would have been happy... We could have gone out and recruited a new young eager coach... He could have started his own recruitment drive.. We, the fans, would have bought into a new regime and given him at least 2 season to turn things around.. A new chapter in the clubs history. We have amazing facilities, we pay top dollar.. we are an attractive proposition.. loads of good coaches would love the chance to come and turn us into contenders again.

instead, were bringing in Cox, deemed not good enough for Hull KR by Peacock and Ryan ing Bailey..... Smith is right under the cosh before the new season has even started... This coming season should have been a fresh start for everyone at the club... Instead we have the coach having to explain a signing to the same first team players that called a meeting on him last season to voice their displeasure at him.

Its not great is it?

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It's ok some fans mentioning TS record at Wire, if you lose the dressing room you're on borrowed time.

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Just out of interest, whats the Wire Fan club' general response to this, anyone in the facebook group on here?

I saw the video on twitter, reeks of towing the party line, rather than representative of 'fans' imo.

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