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I rarely start topics on here but tonight WTF..?
Half backs again none exsitant..!
Kicking game ditto..!
Second rowers nothing !
Discipline appalling !

But my biggest worry is the fact that teams like Widnes and Huddersfield don't have to do anything special to cross the try line..!

I know this will be called a knee jerk but that was very poor tonight ..!

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I don't think it's as bad as 2002 just yet.....

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Everything about tonight, from the players to the imbecile 'fans' was horrendous. The working thing is, I can't see it getting better. We are completely lacking in direction and basic football skills. So painfully dull and predictable!

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I was worried about this season... but we are much MUCH worse than i thought we would be.

Tonight was a turning point.... Tonight this looked like a team that has stopped believing in the coach.

no direction, no kicking game (standard), no structure...... but the things which were far worse.. no heart, no intensity... no clue

This is a beaten team in every department.

we were beaten from the moment widnes scored their first try.

i dont even think 2 new half backs would fix this.... the problem appears to be much deeper.

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where do we get seven more wins that will give us 22 points to hopefully be enough to stay in the 8.......its proper dark pal .....dark indeed......

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Tonight was the first time in quite a few years where I thought to myself "what am I doing here".. I had to get an early finish today from work to attend tonight, which means I owe a favour...
I can take being beaten by a better team but that was as bad as it gets, Widnes didn't have to work hard.. We are so soft !!

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Quote: the flying biscuit "where do we get seven more wins that will give us 22 points to hopefully be enough to stay in the 8.......its proper dark pal .....dark indeed......'"


You soon changed your tune.

This team and coach are screwed

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why is everyone so surprised? we have gone from a team full of internationals, genuine creative players and good quality Aussies to a team riddled with mediocre players, over the hill has been's and no creativity. Its not rocket science really.

Briers not replaced to the same level
Hodgson not replaced to the same level
King not replaced to the same level
Solomona not replaced to the same level
Carvell not replaced to the same level
Morley not replaced to the same level

GOB not good enough
Myler not good enough in this set-up
Bridge - not good enough (might be finished)

Clarke replaces M Monaghan...should be good enough

Penny..not good enough...same defensive frailties

Russell..mediocre
Currie..mediocre
Simms - mediocre
R Evans - mediocre
Laithwaite - mediocre

Asotasi - finished

Hill - good enough...carrying the whole team at the moment
Ratchford - would be good enough in a better set-up
England - OK
Monaghan - would be OK in a team with a kicking game
Atkins - would be OK in a team with decent half backs
Westwood - OK
Harrison - OK
Higham - OK but nearly finished.

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Quote: Tiz Lad "You soon changed your tune.

This team and coach are screwed'"


You abused Clark on twitter yet?

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"Teams like Widnes and Huddersfield" you mean teams who are above you in the table and have just beaten you comfortably icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Oxford Exile "why is everyone so surprised? we have gone from a team full of internationals, genuine creative players and good quality Aussies to a team riddled with mediocre players, over the hill has been's and no creativity. Its not rocket science really.

Briers not replaced to the same level
Hodgson not replaced to the same level
King not replaced to the same level
Solomona not replaced to the same level
Carvell not replaced to the same level
Morley not replaced to the same level

GOB not good enough
Myler not good enough in this set-up
Bridge - not good enough (might be finished)

Clarke replaces M Monaghan...should be good enough

Penny..not good enough...same defensive frailties

Russell..mediocre
Currie..mediocre
Simms - mediocre
R Evans - mediocre
Laithwaite - mediocre

Asotasi - finished

Hill - good enough...carrying the whole team at the moment
Ratchford - would be good enough in a better set-up
England - OK
Monaghan - would be OK in a team with a kicking game
Atkins - would be OK in a team with decent half backs
Westwood - OK
Harrison - OK
Higham - OK but nearly finished.'"


spot on

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Quote: Oxford Exile "why is everyone so surprised? we have gone from a team full of internationals, genuine creative players and good quality Aussies to a team riddled with mediocre players, over the hill has been's and no creativity. Its not rocket science really.

Briers not replaced to the same level
Hodgson not replaced to the same level
King not replaced to the same level
Solomona not replaced to the same level
Carvell not replaced to the same level
Morley not replaced to the same level

GOB not good enough
Myler not good enough in this set-up
Bridge - not good enough (might be finished)

Clarke replaces M Monaghan...should be good enough

Penny..not good enough...same defensive frailties

Russell..mediocre
Currie..mediocre
Simms - mediocre
R Evans - mediocre
Laithwaite - mediocre

Asotasi - finished

Hill - good enough...carrying the whole team at the moment
Ratchford - would be good enough in a better set-up
England - OK
Monaghan - would be OK in a team with a kicking game
Atkins - would be OK in a team with decent half backs
Westwood - OK
Harrison - OK
Higham - OK but nearly finished.'"

Maybe that "overseas bank" has closed down?
You still have some quality players but no creative half backs, to me you haven't replaced briers or Monaghan, the only 2 creative players you had.

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Quote: meast ""Teams like Widnes and Huddersfield" you mean teams who are above you in the table and have just beaten you comfortably
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Awwww ..things go in cycles though at the moment teams like Huddersfield and Widnes are better than Warrington but give it a few weeks you could have turned it round and be the best team ever again

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Quote: WireFanatic III "You abused Clark on twitter yet?'"


Not really worth my efforts any more, coz he's doing nothing to change my opinion is he?

Not bothered, doesn't want to be here, and stealing a pay packet

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