to finish top of league we are a 7/1 shot
to win gf we are a 5/1 shot
and to win cc we are a 7/2 shot..
seems bet fred has got more faith in the wire than us fans

Can see them odds getting bigger as the season progresses , we will not make the semi finals of the cc or playoffs

If we avoid leeds or saints we could make the cc final but it'll end up like 1990 I'm afraid.
I wont go to see that.

Anyone taking them odds wants sectioning or Mr Done has heard something we haven't

If we get to 15 or 20-1 or so then the grand final or cc are worth a punt. We have players who are well capable it just seems that they have (hopefully temporarily) forgotten how to be capable.

Terrible odds, no value there - Obviously basing the odds on the Wire side of the last 4 seasons, rather than the dross we have on the pitch at the moment.... Its not like we are particularly under-performing, like the Leeds' sides that came from nowhere to take the titles in 2011 and 2012, because I don't honestly see much improvement in our present squad.

What odds should we be??..... I'd go 50/1 to finish top of the table (We would probably have to win every game from here on in to do it).... Challenge Cup is probably our best bet, but 7/2 is still way too short, I'd go 6 or 7/1.... Grand final is not impossible, but its highly improbable, I'd go about 12 or 14/1, based purely on the fact that Tony Smith might just be able to coax a run of performances out of our lot come September/October.

I'd need 15s before I'd even consider betting on Wire to win the league.

I would say we are not even favourites to win our next game

believe it or not but we are giving widnes a 14 point start on friday

Really??!!??..... Widnes are nailed on with that start - The pessimist in me thinks its 50/50 match, no start for either side... If I was a neutral bookie, I'd give Widnes 4-6 points start.

Shows how much you know mucker.

Well I think we are probably 50 to 1 against to beat Widnes, and the odds of us winning the league must be around 1,000 to 1 surely ?. In fact I don't think we will be in another final for at least 50 years. By that time attendances will have dropped to 400-500 at the HJ and Simon Moran will be laying on free coaches just to get people to the pre-season friendlies. Of course we will be in Championship 3 by then, alongside Morecambe Bay Wanderers and Latchford Albion, and our main kit sponsor will be the paper shop down on Wilderspool Causeway.