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1 Matthew Russell
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3 Chris Bridge
4 Ryan Atkins
5 Joel Monaghan
6 Stefan Ratchford
7 Richie Myler
8 Chris Hill
9 Micky Higham
10 Roy Asotasi
11 Trent Waterhouse
12 Ben Westwood
13 Simon Grix
14 Michael Monaghan
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Time for Smith to go, hes obviously lost the plot Russell is nothing special his defence is awful, we are doing to GOB what saints did to Briers, I don't blame him if he leaves

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Quote: Wiredeano "Time for Smith to go, hes obviously lost the plot Russell is nothing special his defence is awful, we are doing to GOB what saints did to Briers, I don't blame him if he leaves'"


Yet if you look on the virtual terrace you will see that russell is top in the poll of emerging talent that has impressed the most.

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Russell no doubt has been fast tracked into the position due to the retirement of Briers and his RLWC performnces.

Looking at the personnel we will have to play a different game next season.

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Mmmmm. Must admit I was hoping for a big name signing to replace Briers. Not sure that is a side capable of winning SL.

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Neither was this year's or the previous year's. This might just be the freshen up we needed. There's nothing fundamentally wrong. I think GOB will play a lot more than that squad listing suggests.

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It's pretty obvious TS just doesn't rate GOB. No Danny Bridge either.

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Pretty surprised M Monas has lost the number 9 even if he's not first choice anymore, good to see Grixy getting a first XIII shirt.

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Not a surprise do think Myler and Ratchford is a stronger pairing than Myler and O'brien. Nor seen enough of Russell really to form an opinion got to move on players leave and retire, transition season, go into the same as Wigan who also have lost personnel . Give the lads a chance don't have a go at new signings before they have even played for us. I have been watching wire since 1973 seen a lot of squads worse than this but not many better, look at the average age of the squad loads to look forward to for me Smith doing/done a great job careful what you wish for

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Quote: garyhulsefan "It's pretty obvious TS just doesn't rate GOB. No Danny Bridge either.'"


Why is it "pretty obvious"?

What did you expect him to do give him the number 7 shirt in front of Myler? Who out of numbers 1 to 19 did you think he'd be in front of?

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Quote: mark_m "Russell no doubt has been fast tracked into the position due to the retirement of Briers and his RLWC performnces.

Looking at the personnel we will have to play a different game next season.'"


I think this is what its about. You can't replace Briers in a 'like for like' way, we will have to play in a different way. When you look at replacing people with freakish talent either in RL or other sports, its not possible to replace those people. Briers, the likes of Jason Robinson, Ronaldo, Suarez etc are not replaceable in that way. Much as it pains me to say it, Wigan are our template here - last season they lost a few experienced top quality players and reaplced them with promising youngsters and what were, on paper, clearly inferior players likes Smith and Green. That didn't stop them winning the double.

What it does for me is spread the responsibilty for playmaking and leadership more widely. It makes preseason certainly more interesting than last year and although I think there are lots of 'if's' and 'maybe's' and some reasonable concerns given the experience we have lost, I for one am looking forward to seeing how the likes of Russell, Glenn Riley, Evans, Currie and G'OB step up to the next level as well as seeing how England works out at SL level - you never know, he could be the next Chris Hill!

It will also be interesting to see how Asotasi settles in - there will certainly be high expectations on his shoulders and the fact he has missed the Word Cup to get himself fit for the new season is positive. Presumably the new 'leadership group' will feature Asotasi, Monaghan & Waterhouse but it could encourage the likes of Myler and Currie to step us as our next generation of leaders.

Yes, it would have been nice to see the name 'Thurston' down at 6 but that was never going to happen. The squad are going to have to work together to make things happen and I'm looking forward to that. Roll on 2014.

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Isnt it a 25 man squad ? we have only named 24.
And as far as a big named signing is coincerned, if we need to replace Briers with a big name then we might as well get rid of all youth policies now and just buy from outside.
Why are we spending thousands on youth development if it is not to bring them into the first team????

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Not too worried by this. Wire have been arguably the best team in the league for 2 or 3 years now and still haven't won it. Even if we are a step down from previous seasons we are still in with a shout.

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Quote: Kevin Turvey "I think this is what its about. You can't replace Briers in a 'like for like' way, we will have to play in a different way. When you look at replacing people with freakish talent either in RL or other sports, its not possible to replace those people. Briers, the likes of Jason Robinson, Ronaldo, Suarez etc are not replaceable in that way. Much as it pains me to say it, Wigan are our template here - last season they lost a few experienced top quality players and reaplced them with promising youngsters and what were, on paper, clearly inferior players likes Smith and Green. That didn't stop them winning the double.

What it does for me is spread the responsibilty for playmaking and leadership more widely. It makes preseason certainly more interesting than last year and although I think there are lots of 'if's' and 'maybe's' and some reasonable concerns given the experience we have lost, I for one am looking forward to seeing how the likes of Russell, Glenn Riley, Evans, Currie and G'OB step up to the next level as well as seeing how England works out at SL level - you never know, he could be the next Chris Hill!

It will also be interesting to see how Asotasi settles in - there will certainly be high expectations on his shoulders and the fact he has missed the Word Cup to get himself fit for the new season is positive. Presumably the new 'leadership group' will feature Asotasi, Monaghan & Waterhouse but it could encourage the likes of Myler and Currie to step us as our next generation of leaders.

Yes, it would have been nice to see the name 'Thurston' down at 6 but that was never going to happen. The squad are going to have to work together to make things happen and I'm looking forward to that. Roll on 2014.'"


Spot on post, I'm looking forward to next season.

Truth be known, I thought if anything we'd become a bit stale last season and yes admittedly a GF win might have changed my perception. Apart from shaking things up, lowering our squad average age we need to assess where we now stand as a club and be measured not only by our recent buying power.

Roll on 2014 let's get behind this squad, we will be in the mix surely.

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