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This is Warrington players only, its not players that had their career cut short by injury, its for Wire players who were british that showed huge potential but when you look back on their careers you would have to say that they under achieved.

Just name one player.

I'll start things off with Martin Crompton, at the time i thought we had the next Andy Gregory on our hands or even better. He had everything you would want to see from a scrum half, the ability to go past players, speed off the mark, a good passing game and great vision.

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Obvious candidate, Kevin Penny.

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Of the two already mentioned
Roper- unbelievable potential, just plain bone idle (imo). What a waste
Penny. Hung out to dry by Smith and at the time, Lowes(my only gripe with Smith). Hope he does really well for Wakey, he deserved better.

Some others from recent years
Lee Penny, his career just levelled and never kicked on
Kevin Ellis, always played well against average scrum halves, but was found wanting when up against Edwards/Gregory/Deryk Fox etc
Rowland Phillips, Devastating when he was in the mood, just a pity his "mood" wasn't as often at it should have been
OVERSEAS
TKL-Good player who SHOULD have been great.
Kidwell, again devastating when he wanted to be. Did we get him a couple of years too early

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Chris Causey - wasn't he dubbed the "new morley" at some point?

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Quote: Wirefan "Chris Causey - wasn't he dubbed the "new morley" at some point?'"


I dunno but Phil Sumner was dubbed the next Les Boyd.

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "Penny. Hung out to dry by Smith'"


he wasn't hung out to dry at all.... he just wasn't picked.

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Quote: Rob Wire "I dunno but Phil Sumner was dubbed the next Les Boyd.'"


WHAT...just choked omy dinner...hilarious

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Alstead, Hulse & Highton

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John Duffy

I remember when we went over to Oz and played in the original WCC, the lad had a stormer in Aukland IIRC and was labelled the next big thing by the media over there

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "he wasn't hung out to dry at all.... he just wasn't picked.'"


He was made a scapegoat in that fiasco of a second half against Saints (1st game of the season 2009)
There were others (Johnson, LAnderson) just as culpable, but with them having big reputations, Penny "took the rap" (imo).
Anyway...this one's been done to death previously. We're just not going to agree on it

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Its a bit early to say Kevin Penny had potential but underachieved at 23......we all would have said Westwood was an underachiever till he was about 24/25.

I wouldn't say Alstead, Hulse and Highton underachieved, its not like they were world beaters as youngsters who threw it all away in a life of booze, cars and women....they were good pros who didn't have anything special at SL level so ended up in the league below.

A player who only had a brief Wire career, but underachieved, was Dale Cardoza, he was basically built like Kidwell or Westwood but had explosive pace, he could have been an absolute tank.

On the other side of the coin from the underachievers are the guys who were probably built up too much in terms of expectations when they were younger, Steve Pickersgill we were told for years was a Morley-esque talent but when he came into 1st team he was just a decent good SL player who worked hard. Possibly Jon Roper as well - when he came in the team he was talked about as though he was heading for GB like Harris and Scully, personally I never saw it with Roper, thought he looked ok but was miles away from GB potential. Didn't Bradford try and sign him and we turned them down, so they got McAvoy instead?

Warren Stevens and Jon Duffy I would also include in that category, people thought they never achieved their promise, because they were built up above the level their ability justified in the first place.

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Does Jimmy Lowes count?

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Mike Wernham

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Andy Bracek.

Paid a fee for him from Saints when he was 20? Paid a decent fee as well IIRC?

I remember a few Saints fans on their board cursing their club for letting him go.

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