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| please drop the whole squad and play the 1-17 who played for the reserve team today, they played with confidence, skill and most importantly, pride in the shirt , the team spriiti was teher to see n not in the 1st tteam, wel platye dlads
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| Quote ="Jesus Of Suburbia"please drop the whole squad and play the 1-17 who played for the reserve team today, they played with confidence, skill and most importantly, pride in the shirt , the team spriiti was teher to see n not in the 1st tteam, wel platye dlads'" I know that this is a popular opinion at the moment, but IMO it is not the way to go.
There is clearly an issue, but the answer isn't to give up on these players, the answer is to sort the issue. If that means getting rid of a couple of players, or having it out with the squad, whatever, that is Smith's job, and I have faith in him to do it.
When people say drop the whole squad, you are tarring everybody with the same brush.
I have not seen anything which would require Hicks, Gleeson, Morley, Higham, Clarke, Mitchell etc get dropped.
The issues will not be sorted by dropping everyone.
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| Not the way to go at all.
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| Quote ="Jesus Of Suburbia"please drop the whole squad and play the 1-17 who played for the reserve team today, they played with confidence, skill and most importantly, pride in the shirt , the team spriiti was teher to see n not in the 1st tteam, wel platye dlads'"
Then they'll get beat by vastly more experienced super league opposition. And we can boo them too.
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| Just imagine if the academy lads played and were beaten like they were against Wigan, when it was men against boys. Real confidence boost, that would be. Especially when we hear the "same old wire" catcalls from disgruntled fans fed up of watching a losing team.
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"Apart from Bridge.'"
Was he not very good
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| Seems to be a bit of a drastic measure
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| Quote ="Jesus Of Suburbia"please drop the whole squad and play the 1-17 who played for the reserve team today, they played with confidence, skill and most importantly, pride in the shirt , the team spriiti was teher to see n not in the 1st tteam, wel platye dlads'"
good point. well said. totally agree.
just one question " are that reserve team all british by any chance? " to me that is the big root of the 1st team squad, foreign burglars.
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| Quote ="Jesus Of Suburbia"please drop the whole squad and play the 1-17 who played for the reserve team today, they played with confidence, skill and most importantly, pride in the shirt , the team spriiti was teher to see n not in the 1st tteam, wel platye dlads'"
I wouldn't say the whole squad, but the vast majority definitely.
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| Quote ="Mark"Was he not very good'"
Well after being out in town at the night, must surely distrupt the recovery process.
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| Quote ="bettyswallocks"good point. well said. totally agree.
just one question " are that reserve team all british by any chance? " to me that is the big root of the 1st team squad, foreign burglars.'"
FORIEGN BURGLARS spot on I've been saying this for years.
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| Quote ="Crosfielder"FORIEGN BURGLARS spot on I've been saying this for years.'"
I personally feel that some of our deep-rooted problems are caused by the English born players.
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"I personally feel that some of our deep-rooted problems are caused by the English born players.'"
Yea, Briers, Westwood and Gleeson.
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| Quote ="Dave T"I have not seen anything which would require Hicks, Gleeson, Morley, Higham, Clarke, Mitchell etc get dropped.
The issues will not be sorted by dropping everyone.'"
Agreed, but we can't just keep on putting the Andersons, Briers, Monaghan out there. Surely Tyrone McCarthy should replace one of the Andersons this week. And let's at least show either Briers or Monaghan that they must shape up. I'm a bit torn on King. I wouldn't have him at centre but think we should play both Riley and Penny.
I think my team would be....
Hicks
Riley
Gleeson
Grix
Penny
Bridge
Briers
Morley
Clarke
Cooper
Mitchell
Johnson
McCarthy
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Rau
Pickersgill
AN Other (maybe King)
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| Quote ="Jesus Of Suburbia"please drop the whole squad and play the 1-17 who played for the reserve team today, they played with confidence, skill and most importantly, pride in the shirt , the team spriiti was teher to see n not in the 1st tteam, wel platye dlads'"
I understand the sentiment of this post but it wouldn't work. The team would loose heavilly and all that skill, team spirit and pride would disappear in a depression of lost confidence.
If the answer was just to change the whole team then why would we need a coach? Why were we so sure that Lowes (and before that Cullen) were not up to the job and that we needed a change.
Tony Smith has been brought in to do a job and this will take time. Team spirit is built up on and off the park. It 's his job to identify what the real issues are, put plans in place to correct it and then ensure that they are followed. The plans may involve dropping players, instilling discipline, geeing players up, changing tactics, selling players or bringing in new backroom staff.
Whatever he does he is not a magician and it will take time. I'm gutted at the position we've found ourselves in but I think it has been building for quite a while and to expect it to be righted over night is just silly. I do want it to be sorted now, but it won't be.
As fans we've got what we wanted, an experienced coach with a reputation as a disciplinarian. Lets give him some time to work at the problems and to get them sorted.
Luckily with the franchise system we can't be relegated but each hammering hurts and we all hate it. We hate being laughed at as the moneybags underachievers, but at the moment that's what we are. We'll have to grin and bear it. Watch or don't watch the choice is down to each individual fan and I don't think any can be criticised on how they choose to react to it.
One things for sure though even if you don't go you'll still care and eventually you'll come back! Once a Wire always a Wire.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Agreed, but we can't just keep on putting the Andersons, Briers, Monaghan out there. Surely Tyrone McCarthy should replace one of the Andersons this week. And let's at least show either Briers or Monaghan that they must shape up. I'm a bit torn on King. I wouldn't have him at centre but think we should play both Riley and Penny.
I think my team would be....
Hicks
Riley
Gleeson
Grix
Penny
Bridge
Briers
Morley
Clarke
Cooper
Mitchell
Johnson
McCarthy
Higham
Rau
Pickersgill
AN Other (maybe King)'" Absolutely agree. That is why I only named the ones who I feel have earned their spots so far this season.
I am a bit split on the Andersons. Personally I feel that Louis is one of the hardest working players in the team, he is regularly towards the top of the tackle count, but he is still young and learning. I am less forgiving of Vinnie.
I don't disagree with your selections, and whilst I would have a few different names, the team you name is a long way off naming the 2nd team in place of Saturday's 17.
I don't think now is the time for knee-jerk reactions with a new manager, but he does need to make a stance. I think your team means around 6 changes which surely would send the message that Smith means business.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Yea, Briers, Westwood and Gleeson.'"
Westwood ?
I don't see Westwood as being a problem, far from it.
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| am i the only one who wonders what King would be like in the second row?
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"am i the only one who wonders what King would be like in the second row?'"
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