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| There are several similarities between these two players.
Both were/are very fast wingers, very elusive and having excellent balance with ball in hand.
Defence wasn't/isn't the strong point of either although I think Penny is improving all the time. BB's defence was awful, his only contribution was to chase (and usually catch) breakaway runners.
When a tackle on an opponent was called for he would stand and watch, usually with hands on hips.
If in danger of being tackled BB very often just stepped into touch, Ive seen him do that many times.
BB was on the field for one reason and one reason only, his speed. He was a try-scoring machine.
One thing they both need/needed was a quality centre to make the intial space, as does any good wing.
I can not remember BB ever being dropped from the team.
For these reasons I think dropping Penny is very poor coaching.
If he is dropped for his defence, well there are other playes in the team equally culpable, why victimise Penny ? Rather than individuals being blamed surely it is the team's defencive strategy that is suspect ?
If he is dropped for lack of tries, as I said earlier, every good winger needs a good centre. KP doesn't have a good centre. He will never score tries without being given the ball (admitted he fluffed one last game).
Apart from not having a half decent centre, there doesn't seem to be any room in the game plan (?) for other players to kick to his wing.
There is one other possible reason for dropping him. Scapegoat.
Whatever the reason it is no way to bring on a talented youngster. I he were playing for Leeds I am certain he would develop into a world-beater.
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| I understand your thinking but (even though I never had the privilege of seeing BB - my uncle did) I can't believe that KP is anywhere in the same league as Bevan.
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| Quote ="Rosswire"There are several similarities between these two players.
Both were/are very fast wingers, very elusive and having excellent balance with ball in hand.
Defence wasn't/isn't the strong point of either although I think Penny is improving all the time. BB's defence was awful, his only contribution was to chase (and usually catch) breakaway runners.
When a tackle on an opponent was called for he would stand and watch, usually with hands on hips.
If in danger of being tackled BB very often just stepped into touch, Ive seen him do that many times.
BB was on the field for one reason and one reason only, his speed. He was a try-scoring machine.
One thing they both need/needed was a quality centre to make the intial space, as does any good wing.
I can not remember BB ever being dropped from the team.
For these reasons I think dropping Penny is very poor coaching.
If he is dropped for his defence, well there are other playes in the team equally culpable, why victimise Penny ? Rather than individuals being blamed surely it is the team's defencive strategy that is suspect ?
If he is dropped for lack of tries, as I said earlier, every good winger needs a good centre. KP doesn't have a good centre. He will never score tries without being given the ball (admitted he fluffed one last game).
Apart from not having a half decent centre, there doesn't seem to be any room in the game plan (?) for other players to kick to his wing.
There is one other possible reason for dropping him. Scapegoat.
Whatever the reason it is no way to bring on a talented youngster. I he were playing for Leeds I am certain he would develop into a world-beater.'"
I'm sorry .
YOU'RE Deranged
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| agreed...
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| Great site lads.
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| Quote ="1878"Great site lads.'"
I share your pain.
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| The great thing about the Warrington team these days as opposed to Bevans day is that we have a squad where we can field two equally good thirteens, so no player is guaranteed his place. If you don't perform Lowes has shown he is willing to wield the axe and not scared of big reputations.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"The great thing about the Warrington team these days as opposed to Bevans day is that we have a squad where we can field two equally good thirteens, so no player is guaranteed his place. If you don't perform Lowes has shown he is willing to wield the axe and not scared of big reputations.'"
Not one of your better efforts - the tongue is slowly slipping from the cheek.
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| Bevan looked good due to quality half backs and a quality centre inside him and played in a time when players' physiques mostly determined their position. As opposed to lining up opposite creatine-filled monsters like Peter Fox and Francis Meli, Bevan was lining up against mostly skinny figures who were on the wing due to offering little to the team.
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"Bevan looked good due to quality half backs and a quality centre inside him and played in a time when players' physiques mostly determined their position. As opposed to lining up opposite creatine-filled monsters like Peter Fox and Francis Meli, Bevan was lining up against mostly skinny figures who were on the wing due to offering little to the team.'"
This years most ill-informed quotes.
Translated - all props had pot bellies, scrum halves were little whippets and wingers were put on the wing because they were crap and spent all the game rolling their caps. THAT'S why Brian Bevan scored so many tries
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"Bevan looked good due to quality half backs and a quality centre inside him and played in a time when players' physiques mostly determined their position. As opposed to lining up opposite creatine-filled monsters like Peter Fox and Francis Meli, Bevan was lining up against mostly skinny figures who were on the wing due to offering little to the team.'"
Sorry, missed that bit of comedy as well
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| Quote ="eddie gordo"Sorry, missed that bit of comedy as well
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Have you seen Peter Fox lately?
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"Have you seen Peter Fox lately?'"
Saw him at the pre-season friendly and certainly wouldn't have described him as a creatine-filled monster
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| Penny has a lot in common with Leroy Rivett.
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| Quote ="Steve51"Penny has a lot in common with Leroy Rivett.'"
Apart from Leroy Rivett has actually won the Lance Todd trophy.
I wonder if he is still playing?
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| Quote ="mark_m"Apart from Leroy Rivett has actually won the Lance Todd trophy.
I wonder if he is still playing?'"
Rochdale Hornets.
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| Brian Bevan and Kevin Penny should never be allowed in the same sentence.
Unless the context similar to the above sentence.
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| The Kevin Penny Disabled toilets is all that will be named after KP in years to come. I really can't see a statue or a wall, can you?
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| Quote ="Rosswire".
Both were/are very fast wingers, very elusive and having excellent balance with ball in hand.
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Penny elusive???... ....I've never seen him beat a man, either with a side-step, a drop of the shoulder, a dummy, nothing.
Yes, once put in the clear he is quick, and unlikely to be caught, but it will be more than likely the work of the centre or some other player that has gained Penny the space.
Watch as he returns the ball from his own line from an opposition kick....the fellow just runs meekly into the arms of opposing tacklers, no attempt made to actually beat the defence.
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| Quote ="Betty Ford Clinic"The Kevin Penny Disabled toilets is all that will be named after KP in years to come. I really can't see a statue or a wall, can you?'"
I would suggest that comment says more about you than Kevin.
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| Quote ="silver2"I would suggest that comment says more about you than Kevin.'"
so you think the will rename Winwick Road, Kevin Penny Walk then do you?
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"Penny elusive???...
....I've never seen him beat a man, either with a side-step, a drop of the shoulder, a dummy, nothing.
not remember him doing gardner with a step then?
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| Quote ="TNT Burke"
not remember him doing gardner with a step then?'"
So that's once from a man someone is trying to compare to Brian Bevan??...
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