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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"There is a little bit of me that thinks we may just pull this one off. We are due a big signing....I know we signed Clarke but was a promising young talent rather than an established star of the game.
If we signed Tomkins it would easily be a bigger signing than Gleeson, Morley and King.
It would solve our full back problem for a start (watching Ratchford not reading the plays and wrapping round too slowly last week was painful.) It would also solve our captaincy issue out as well.
we should be chucking serious money at him.
that said, and despite reading that a friend of Tomkins on Twitter has said "Looks like I'm going to have to start supporting Warrington then
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I hope twitter isn't full of poop
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On what basis do you think Tomkins would even consider signing for Wire, who at the moment are total no-hopers.
Warrington, after a few years of relative success, are currently disappearing back from where they came...lower mid-table
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"On what basis do you think Tomkins would even consider signing for Wire, who at the moment are total no-hopers.
Warrington, after a few years of relative success, are currently disappearing back from where they came...lower mid-table'"
Why relative success?
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| Quote ="Wires71"Why relative success?'"
0 Grand Final wins.
"just like the last one, it's" etc etc
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"0 Grand Final wins.
"just like the last one, it's" etc etc'"
3 actually, or is there a magical cut off date for honours Mr Troll?
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"0 Grand Final wins.
"just like the last one, it's" etc etc'"
Gotcha. So what you are saying is that you believe Sam Tomkins would never ever consider an offer from Warrington?
This is an offer from a club who are amongst only 4 in the league who have actually won ANY silverware since 2005. The club that are the 4th placed team in terms of honours won during the All time Super League period who remain in Super League ? Warrington who were gash up until 6 years ago and achieved this in the last 6 years ?
Only silly billies like Steve and opposition fans quote that "It's our year" nonsense.
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| Like his avatar counterpart, it's best not to encourage the senile.
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"0 Grand Final wins.
"just like the last one, it's" etc etc'"
Yarkshire born
Yarkshire bred
Strong inth'arm
I think we know the rest
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"On what basis do you think Tomkins would even consider signing for Wire, who at the moment are total no-hopers.
Warrington, after a few years of relative success, are currently disappearing back from where they came...lower mid-table'"
Jason Robinson to Sale Sharks
Robinho to Manchester City
Lebron James to Cleveland Cavaliers
Adrian Morley to Warrington
etc etc etc......
Money talks! Past success means very little. A player does not sign to go in a time machine and live in the past, they sign for the future.
Plus Wire are one of only 5 clubs who've won anything in a decade.
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| Just ignore Bruce, he's as much a s**t troll on here as he is on the Virtual Terrace. It's laughable. 
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| Chin up Bruce
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| All you need to do is mention how the Hull Derby isn't the best game over the Easter period and he'll go off on one, and go in a huff like he did on the VT. 
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| More from Tomkins, keeping it cryptic -
From BBC :
But Tomkins, who cited homesickness as his main reason for wanting to return to England, will remain in rugby league and Wigan are strong favourites to sign him.
"Everyone's going to think that's going to happen, aren't they?" added Tomkins when asked about a move back to the Warriors. "That was predictable that everyone would assume that.
"It's one of those where I can't say anything until I do sign somewhere and it will all be out of the way.
"Once it gets released it will be a lot easier for me wherever I am," continued Tomkins. "I don't think the announcement will take too long and hopefully it will be out of the way, not only for me but for people asking questions."
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| That was a telephone, radio interview from George Riley on 5 live yesterday.
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| Interesting that he keeps it open ended, we'll all know by Sunday I would have thought.
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| why doesnt he just say im signing for wigan blah blah blah...must be starved of attention
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| He did the same when the world knew he was going to NZW.
Seriously if he goes anywhere other than Wigan I'll show my backside, and i have zero intention of doing that.
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| I think Sam is giving the Pies time to try and raise their bid to match ours. The longer it goes on the more likely I think he'll be a Wire.
I honestly think if it was such a done deal he was going to Pieland, Pies would have already issued a press conference by now.
I think it's down to money and Leneghan can't/wont match Wire. Maybe there trying to get sponsorship as part of his deal. Sam is giving them time to secure it.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I think Sam is giving the Pies time to try and raise their bid to match ours. The longer it goes on the more likely I think he'll be a Wire.
I honestly think if it was such a done deal he was going to Pieland, Pies would have already issued a press conference by now.
I think it's down to money and Leneghan can't/wont match Wire. Maybe there trying to get sponsorship as part of his deal. Sam is giving them time to secure it.
Imo'"
I think he would sign for Wigan straight away if that were possible. The undertones in the interviews does make it seem like there is a contractual or financial barrier to that somewhere. Potentially the salary cap, potentially something in the contract that he signed on his way out. Perhaps they have to repay the £750,000 if they resign him?
I quite fancy Leeds or Wire, just for the fact that it would annoy Wigan so much. It would be hilarious. He hasn't always had a smooth ride at Wigan either. He was getting serious abuse towards the end of his time there as they believed he wasn't trying and wasn't committed enough. It was quite clear he wanted out of Wigan ASAP when his NRL move came up. There is also the issues of Zac Hardaker. He's had so many indiscretions at Leeds that they've now released a statement publicly chastising him and making him work 20 hours a week for the marketing or community development teams. That kind of thing just makes it untenable after a while, you see it all the time, people who are in trouble with work pretty much always end up leaving. If that's the case I could definitely see him moving on, which opens up a possible run of moves cascading through SL.
His return to Wigan is probably the most likely outcome, but I could see a stint in France or Salford if Wigan have cap issues for a season.
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| I can't see him going to Leeds given the reception he got at Headingley when playing for England. It'll be Wigan no doubt.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I think Sam is giving the Pies time to try and raise their bid to match ours. The longer it goes on the more likely I think he'll be a Wire.
I honestly think if it was such a done deal he was going to Pieland, Pies would have already issued a press conference by now.
I think it's down to money and Leneghan can't/wont match Wire. Maybe there trying to get sponsorship as part of his deal. Sam is giving them time to secure it.
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I've read all this thread and I'm genuninely intrigued as to why you seem so obsessed with Wigans financial situation? how could you possibly beleive that wigan have no financial clout?? Wigan have been the best supported club for several years, have a very favourable ground deal (no upkeep costs etc) and are backed by a very wealthy owner. Wigans last 4 or 5 signings have all included transfer fees and a very vocal owner keeps reminding us he has no qualms whatsoever in dipping into his pockets for more, not to mention that we are currently operating well under the cap. Players like Tomkins don't come cheap but find it odd that you cite finances as the reason you believe he'll end up at Wire before Wigan.
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| Each year teams release there annual profits. Wigan often make a tiny profit above breaking even, but last season made a big profit, coincidently through the sale of Sam!
Owning a stadium with rights to match day extra sales is the reason for this.
I expect Saints to soon be joining the financial clout of Leeds followed by Warrington.
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| I am sure Wigan's minimal profit was a triumph for the club's accountants & kept all parties happy including HMRC.
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| For any interested parties on this site page 19 on the sam tomkins transfer saga on the wigan forum there is a NZ radio interview where he states he wont be pulling on a wigan jersey until next febuary thats around minute 6 of the interview although it might only be for a few years as he aint ruled yawnion out
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| Quote ="warrior1872"For any interested parties on this site page 19 on the sam tomkins transfer saga on the wigan forum there is a NZ radio interview where he states he wont be pulling on a wigan jersey until next febuary thats around minute 6 of the interview although it might only be for a few years as he aint ruled yawnion out'"
So he's slipped up and said he was putting on a Wigan jersey? Whoopie doo. Everyone in RL knew he was going back there anyway, so who cares.
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| Wigan or Salford it is then...........probably Wigan.....
[urlhttp://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sport/12884692.Sam_Tomkins_not_coming_to_Warrington_Wolves/?ref=mr[/url
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