To scary to even think about, has as been said we won’t attract big investors not just our club but the sport as a whole. Both( Moran & Middleton) clearly good business men in their field but as fans we are always saying are they any good at running a sports club.

Did he steal the steak from your plate, you really got this under your skin, but I agree he as not delivered as a CEO we got shot of Draper fast enough.

I think this is quite a simple one.

Looking dispassionately if they were board directors of a SME business tasked with specific areas of responsibility they would probably have been axed for repeatedly and consistently failing to deliver the strategic targets the club has verbally espoused for over a decade. I should imagine most, if not all, KPIs with Warrington are down since 2016 - revenue, attendances, win %, league position, playoff wins, GF appearances. We are probably up on social media out reach.

As investors they have been very generous.

As owners they can do what they like.

Moran + Middleton must be fuming where this club is now and yes they must take some responsibility especially over our recruitment policy which has been laughable with some of the dead wood we’ve signed and agree with some who say becareful what you wish for.

Good summary, Wires71. So, as massive fans, do they think they should sell to someone else (i.e. get investment from elsewhere) and enjoy the success from the terraces? Or do they keep trying different strategies until, in 2045, they finally do it?

I should make clear I have absolutely no problem with them continuing and I know this is as close to a fans run club you can get nowadays.

BUT, we still haven't won the title.

I think they need a Director of RL to drive everything from club ethos, standards, rugby style, youth, scouting, recruitment* retention*, contract negotiations*, managing performance staff. Free up the head coach to concentrate on performance from the first team. He would be "Mr Warrington" from an RL perspective. Someone who has good links in Northern and Southern hemisphere RL.

The would also free up the CEO (remove from position of harm) to concentrate on sponsorship, membership, marketing, turnover, EBIT, filing accounts, legal, etc.

*in agreement with coach.

I think the real question is “without them would we have a club?”.

R u having a laugh, sack the riches owners ever in super league history, wow some people are very stupid, we would be Widnes or worse, wow we have some dumb fans UNREAL!!!!!

Just astounds me that people can’t see the part pish poor recruitment has played in the last 5 years of “meh” and the common denominator. It’s as clear as dog’s balls.

#KissKamOut

Have you read the thread?

You do realise, just cos you keep posting this ad infinitum on here, total rl and what I'm guessing is you on thr fb groups. It doesn't make it so.

Recruitment has pulled apart on here lots.

Found it's way on to the VT but was swiftly re-routed to the Trash Can ...

#KissKamOut

The owners will forever have my gratitude as a wire fan. I spent the first 15 years of my time following the wire thinking I may never see us win a trophy or even compete to win one. We have well surpassed that since the new owners became involved and its been good to be a wire for the most part from 2009-2019. We are in a bit of a lull right now, I think mistakes have been made like KFP, not sacking price sooner and asking Anderson or henderson to take the reins, maybe Powell us a mistake too, but we have a much better chance of the good times returning with the current owners staying in place IMO.

None of the postings on here “makes it so” right? He’s a diabolical CEO who I struggle to still believe got the job in the first place. Never mind, it’ll be season ticket renewal time again soon so see you in the VeeP lounge for 2023.